now she's cutting and pasting her own stuff!!
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DEFUND Obamacare vote any day now... I cannot wait to hear more liberal whining from Charles Schumer... it is going to be great! A partisan act just like the one democrats used and supported to GET this ALBATROSS to pass! It is about time!
cut, pasted, nothing new
Hey lets pass a partisan bill in the middle of the night without reading it, just because we can!
Rep. Ron Barber, D-Ariz., introduced a bill to repeal a provision of Obamacare that threatens to increase costs for senior citizens after constituents brought the issue to his attention. The Green Valley resolution, according to the background statement, emphasized that the financial hit of limiting deductions for medical expenses would “be disproportionately borne by that ‘selective segment’ of the population that, via the ‘aging process,’ is already the victim of catastrophic non-reimbursable medical expenses.”
A large employer in Saratoga informed their employees that due to obamacare they are forced to raise employee contributions around 20%. Additionally, their once inclusive health plan will now be split into separate plans, Health, Dental and Eye Care will will now be options each with higher premiums. The only way for employees to save money or break even will be to drop one or more policies. Who does this benefit?
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Tot..was referring to the affordable health care act. As I said, so far it's had no affect on my ins, but if my cost was going up like others say theirs are, I would prob feel differently. Reminds me of the old line on Rowan and Martin's Laugh in..."How's it affect me Al Franken." Drugs...totally agree w/you re ins. cos., and as I said I thought it was the GOP who was opposed to competing across state lines...but guess it doesn't matter since it's been nixed for now. Also, did you get a load of notgood's response to a simple question I asked! If either of you 2 know what planet he's from, let me know.
Laker, "When even economists and Dr's can't determine/predict the impact of AHCA, how can anyone here possibly predict it". Were you refering to AHC?
And Dave yes YOU CANCELED your insurance, or would not pay, just like your NLH bill. The has got to be something wrong with you... it is simple math and you are opposed to using your own wealth to cover your responsibilities. AHC was sold as a solution to people that could not afford healthcare not those that chose to not pay it.
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in case anybody needs to be reminded here. this is still a FREE country... and with laws that protect those freedoms. just as i have the right to eat/drink/smoke as much "unhealthy" GVT. sponsored, TAXED, mass produced for our pleasure.. we also have the right to be unhealthy.
can't ya see the injustice here?
Don't charge me for the HONOR of "Co-Existing" with all the dangers in life. just remove the danger!!!!!
you wanna give benefit's to the small guy? CRUSH the world banking system/pyrimid....
teach the lil sheep how to live without credit....
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TOT - my health insurance was paid for by my employer. In 2010, when I turned 60, my premium jumped from $600 a month to $1150. They could not afford the premium,nor could I. Shopping around on my own for a replacement insurance policy, the lowest premium I was quoted was $1350.
What part of this don't you understand?
laker, ins cos. do not want to compete across state lines. They like their little fifedoms
tot...not sure I get your question, whether you were referring to my post or someone elses? Re insurance companies competing across state lines..wasn't the GOP opposed to that?...could be wrong.
Keep reading Dave, there has got to be a way to educate even die hard liberals!
"Wow. I'm reading some amazing things here."
"First of all, ACA is not government run insurance. It is still run by for-profit corporations."
FICTION! ALL FICTION! And you say others make things up???
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Affordable Care Act In March 2010, President Obama signed comprehensive health reform, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (ACA), into law. Sounds more public every time I hear the words... a long way from for profit insurance companies wouldn't you say DAVE?
And laker can you clarify what you are saying about AHCA? What is the impace of The American Health Care Association? It is a non-profit federation of affiliate state health organizations, together representing more than 11,000 non-profit and for-profit nursing facility, assisted living, developmentally-disabled, and subacute care providers that care for approximately one million elderly and disabled individuals each day.
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PS do you still believe that the ACA is a private for profit entity? And you say I make things up??? Funny!
So Dave you didn't allow you insurance to lapse on your own? You are saying that the insurance company dumped you even with continued payments of your premiums? I do not believe this as you yourself told us that you lost your insurance when you moved as you could not transfer your insurance to your new state of residence. THIS could have been attended to in the healthcare takeover but it was not a progressive idea so it was not included. I feel that allowing insurance companies to compete for business across state lines would be a wonderful solution to cost and transferable problems... but it was not an idea that Obama's team was into. It was not a partisan idea, at least not on his side. ANd thanks for your concern about my well being but most of what my problems stem from are a result of progressive agitation and their continuance of mistakes.
notgood...my apologies, I didn't realize the depths of your reading comprehension deficiencies and your insecurities. I'll try again....I was simply asking you a question because I admitted that I did NOT know and requested an answer. And if you're unable to provide details, just say so. Attn all posters, don't ask notgood any more questions, lol
Laker- asside from what I pay a week for my health care I have been informed I will pay a extra to cover the cost of this thing " Which is a tax" Don't question me again on something you have No Clue on!
TOT, stop making crap up. "Dave needs insurance because he canceled his insurance when he moved to NYS and couldn't bring it with him, a simple clause added to ensure insurance was transferable is a much better way to handle it than the OBAMACARE takeover!" is total BS.
I lost my insurance three years ago when I was living in CT, where premiums can be based on age and pre-existing conditions. Since that time, I've applied in both GA and FL and have been declined coverage. I will only be able to buy insurance when the ACA kicks in on January 1st. Meanwhile, I'm looking at tens of thousands of dollars in medical bills from an accident a few weeks ago.
Seriously, there is something wrong with you.
notgood....what is the extra tax you're paying?...who is imposing it? Again, not doubting you, just asking. Bob...Yes, I may have. I honestly don't know what to think of the ACA. I do see some good things, but have no idea how it will impact the economy/what the cost will be. And Pelosi's infamous quote about passing it so we'll know what's in it didn't exactly instill much confidence. Some here say they are already feeling a hit, I personally have not, but am unsure as to how ACA will compare to our current health care system, or lack of. I'm really on the fence on this one.
If you think this thing hasn't or will effect you,you are blind. I just got word that I am going to pay an extra tax every pay check to help cover this idiotic plan. This adminitrasion has done nothing but lie to us.
'When even economists and Dr's can't determine/predict the impact of AHCA, how can anyone here possibly predict it!...especially with the big intangible being preventive care. Cost wise, how does it compare with our current system, or lack of?' Laker, no disrespect intended but I think you answered you own question.
Since my health ins hasn't changed maybe I haven't paid as close attn., but I thought that full implementation of ACA wouldn't be until 2015!
The health careless bill has adversely affected our economy in many ways, it has risen costs to consumers, increased taxes on medical devices and has cut full time employment to all time low numbers. It does not take an economist or a doctorate to see that the costs are going to continue to skyrocket under this plan(less) as it did absolutely nothing to cut cost it simply added another bunch of layers of bureaucracy and MILLIONS of free riders to the system. I suppose if you divide the costs per person the rise is not as substantial but if you remove the non payers then watch the price for the payers leave a long contrail!
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Scarecrow...what was the change in the health care law that prompted your employer to reduce your health spending acct? Not doubting you, just asking...
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