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Let tax credit finally expire

November 8, 2013

Finding and pursuing a cause dear to the hearts of liberal politicians has become the newest get-rich-quick scheme in the United State....

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MrBoB51

Nov-12-13 3:21 PM

Yes Hill, but one is viable one is not.

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Hilltopper

Nov-10-13 1:59 PM

Keystone comes to mind, and the same environmental concerns you have are shared by the "locals" along its route.

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MrBoB51

Nov-10-13 9:56 AM

Agree with your sentiment Hill and, as I'm sure you suspect, I'm not the modern incarnation of a 'tree hugger' and use the environment without abusing it. In my opinion wind power abuses the environment and its benefits are, to be nice, less than marginal...and did I mention they're massively ugly and kill thousands of Bats and other birds too?

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MrBoB51

Nov-10-13 9:39 AM

Oh dave, grow some skin and quit being a cry-baby just because Corp. doesn't like YOUR talking points. Try another message, the one's you're hyping are not getting through.

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Hilltopper

Nov-09-13 4:23 PM

BoB: You sound kind of like a tree hugger (re: the ADKs) but that isn't a bad thing. People in other areas of the country are as near and dear to their "mountains" as we are to ours. In the final analysis, if the locals don't protect it who the h-ell will?

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DaveGibson

Nov-09-13 12:50 PM

MrBob, as tempting as it is, I refuse to sink to your level of childish name calling.

The corporate editor just isn't very bright. He/she is getting all of his talking points from right wing websites, and it is obvious that he doesn't grasp most issues. Take green energy, as a good example. While he wants to end development of green energy and replace it with dirty coal fired power plants, many large businesses (Walmart, Safeway, Google, the Bank of America, and more) are making plans to generate their more of their own power, with many planning on going off the grid. With fewer customers, especially large ones, everyone else's utility bills will rise to compensate for it.

America's power infrastructure is dated. It wouldn't take much for it to all come down, and rolling blackouts could be in our future. Big businesses understand this.

Instead of parroting the Daily Caller, this editor should try forming some of his own opinions. dailycaller dot com/2013/11/05/102-co

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MrBoB51

Nov-09-13 11:44 AM

Dave, what is it with your hard on for LH Corporate Editors on virtually every topic? Did they block your email address at Corporate HQ or something? They're probably as sick of reading your incessant tripe as some of us are. Publish your own Newspaper, call it the Gloversville Maroon.

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MrBoB51

Nov-09-13 11:26 AM

I don't know about that one Hill, just getting to those remote places would tear up the ADK's pretty good. Tons of concrete for the bases would have to be trucked or sky-hooked in. Last week my sweetie and I drove to Cape Cod for the day, nice ride, but going over the Bridge you can see four ( I think) of the most gigantic windmills I have ever seen. These things were HUGE 5 miles away, sitting on top of a cliff! I don't think something like that would 'fit' in our Mountains very well. Now I know why the people on the Cape don't want them there, they are friggin huge and ungodly butt-ugly.

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laker88

Nov-09-13 9:58 AM

Good luck with cutting oil subsidies....attempting to battle the big oil lobby who lines the pockets of our dysfunctional/incompetent politicians.

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Hilltopper

Nov-09-13 9:46 AM

"If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" With 6 million acres in the Adirondack Forest Preserve, would large scale wind farms in the most remote areas make more of a footprint than International Paper?

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Scarecrow57

Nov-09-13 9:29 AM

I travel to Albany every day for Work. All summer ;long there has been a steady stream of windmill blades heading east.

On another note, Nice to know NYS can subsidize a Spanish company to put windmills in NY. JUST DUMB!

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Annarondac

Nov-09-13 8:59 AM

Drugs and notgood, look for your self on the internet. They were all put there with grants and tax credits.

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drugsrus

Nov-09-13 12:24 AM

I have a question - I recently drove to Watertown taking Rts 12 & 12D. Somewhere along that road to my left, I counted 70+ large wind mills. I have also seen smaller "wind farms" in PA along the turnpike near Scranton and west on the way to Pittsburg. Who does that wind forest belong to and who benefits from it??

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notgood

Nov-08-13 7:28 PM

Ann, are you a dog? They hear different than a human. Really!!!

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Annarondac

Nov-08-13 6:59 PM

Also of interest, neighbors living close to the Hardscrabble Wind Power are suing the companies behind it because of their dogs barking too much, cows not producing enough milk, intermittent TV and internet services and noise problems. We have driven our Can-Am over there many times and stopped to look at the view, and we hardly hear anything. Just sayn'.

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Annarondac

Nov-08-13 6:54 PM

The Hardscrabble Wind Power near Middleville is a subsidiary of Iberdrola Renewables, LLC a company operating from Spain. The project produces enough electricity to power over 25,000 typical New York homes each year. NYSERDA awarded funding to Hardscrabble as part of a competitive solicitation for the state’s renewable portfolio standard.

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notgood

Nov-08-13 6:31 PM

I see one stupid comment!

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Hilltopper

Nov-08-13 6:19 PM

correction: That would be on Barto Hill just EAST of Middleville.

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Hilltopper

Nov-08-13 5:01 PM

Does anyone know who operates the wind generators on Barto Hill, Rt 29 just west of Middleville? Regrdless, I argee, end all subsidies to wind, solar, gas and oil companies. That includes all taxbreaks. Let's start by ending the practice of energy interests lobbying our legislators, across party lines, by blowing hot air in their ears and stuffing cash in their pockets. Frankly, it disgusts me.

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TiredOfTax

Nov-08-13 2:10 PM

Does anyone, for even a second think that if democrats told the truth about Obamacare before it was passed that it would be law today? Does anyone believe that laws in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA should be based on lies? I see only one solution here... void this insane failure and work TOGETHER for a real HONEST solution! It would not be a law if Obama were honest so it should NOT be a law!

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Ron1960

Nov-08-13 1:58 PM

What about all the tax breaks our local EDC gave to all the companies that cam to Fulton Co. and then left just as they were supposed to start paying taxes. What about those companies that got tax breaks and signed contracts to employ a certain number of employees and to expand with in a specified number of years and never did. What about the EDC who just took taxpayer money to do the job of getting more new businesses here that would provide decent jobs for our local people but instead of doing what they were paid to do just walked away with over $3,000,000 of our tax payer money and the lame brain people that you elected to represent you refused to go after these crooks. And those elected people here in Fulton Co. are 99.99% Republican.

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TiredOfTax

Nov-08-13 1:40 PM

There are many LIBERALS that have retired because of Obamas generous green energy policies... after he gave them all that they needed to bankrupt their companies and move away. Many of these lucky recipients supported Obama with funds to get him elected. Likely another waste of taxpayer dollars!

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NottaPinko

Nov-08-13 1:11 PM

Ok I'll say it Dave, go cut a tree down.

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Scarecrow57

Nov-08-13 1:08 PM

I had a solar generating system installed on my home that generates my full load. Were it not for the 30% subsidy that the government handed out it would not have been economically feasible. So I thank all of you taxpayers for cutting my electric bill. Did I also mention the State of NY is giving me $1,000 a year for 5 years too! I love it.

However, how about we cut ALL subsidies, not just the ones we don't like. Oil, Green Energy, PBS, NPR, AMtrak, ALL OF THEM!

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FedUp0416

Nov-08-13 12:12 PM

Solar and Wind are not viable alternatives. If they were, there would be some greedy capitalist producing energy from it and making PROFIT (That dirty word the left hates). By doing away wih coal energy, the only group that gets hurt is the middle class. You know that group that Obama claims to want to help, that group that has seen their median income drop to its lowest point in over 27 years under Obama. Not sure how Bush made this happen, but I am sure the left will lecture us on how he did it.

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