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Do you agree with the Gloversville Common Council's decision to send the city-manager proposal to a public referendum in November?

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Annarondac

Jul-26-14 5:26 PM

The council voted on the change on Tuesday, and everyone knew the vote was going to take place, there should have already been in place an informational meeting on Thursday. That way, it would have subdued the "mis-information" that Ms. Wentworth stated on this morning's Talk of the Town. You cannot promote an idea by always defending it, and she sounded defensive. Really, get a web site, or put out some places people can immediately go to, to inform themselves so that they can come back with good questions. Be positive and sell this to the public and don't let the naysayers get ahead of the goals.

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Stackrat

Jul-26-14 3:05 PM

What difference does it make who or what we vote for? If the hens (including Wrandy)dont agree with what you/I vote for, they just start spreading discontent and rumors until nothing gets accomplished, then t

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drugsrus

Jul-26-14 9:40 AM

Judy, maybe he is related to Harry Reid, but the last sentence is sadly a very true statement. The majority of the public does not give two hoots about the political process and they show it by their absence at the polls on election day. And many of those who do participate make it a popularity contest. On all levels it is time to end career politicians.

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JudyMarcoux

Jul-26-14 9:38 AM

It was just passed on Tuesday. Have patience. I have been assured that council will be setting up informational meetings and notices will be posted in this paper as well as on WENT and the new paper Fulton County Express. I just hope people attend instead of listening to ill informed friends and believing all they see posted on FB.

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Annarondac

Jul-26-14 9:11 AM

I have no idea how that last post came up with my name. Has anyone posted meetings where people can learn about this new form of government?

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Annarondac

Jul-26-14 8:55 AM

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MrBoB51

Jul-26-14 7:40 AM

The last two comments show a lack of knowledge as to how our elected Representative Government works. I see no evidence yet that there is no one in Gloversville or the surrounding area who is not qualified to be a City Manager. In MC we found a County Manager in our backyard. Judy's post indicates C.Kenyon is vividly detached from Civics. This is what you're up against folks, Facebook marauders and naysayers with nothing but negativity. May the informed prevail.

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JudyMarcoux

Jul-25-14 11:17 PM

A post from the mayor's page.......Let the stupidity begin.........

"Chris Kenyon Today at 4:05pm Did i hear it right on the radio that the City Council wants to put it up to a vote to allow the City Council to appoint a Mayor instead of electing one? If that's true it has to be the dumbest idea i have ever heard. It sounds as if they would like to taxpayers to waive their right to vote and allow the Council to appoint whom ever they want. But hey it would not surprise me if the voters fell for it. Most Americans are detached from reality as it is."

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YDirector

Jul-25-14 8:34 PM

Just one other question. If no one in the city of Gloversville is qualified to run the city, what makes the council so qualified to select this expert that is needed to run the city? I mean, isn't that kind of like the students selecting the principal?

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MrBoB51

Jul-25-14 3:10 PM

Regionalization, the forming of distinctly different regions within an area with a focus on local affairs. We are in an era of globalization and a good City Manager knows how to capitalize on that to promote growth. Perhaps once growth has returned along with a larger population and tax base the idea of a County Manager would be a good idea. Right now, Gloversville needs to get back on it's financial/opportunity feet with the Citizens deciding what does and what does not work in their interest's. Give it a chance YDirector.

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YDirector

Jul-25-14 12:02 PM

Regionalization and consolidation of services should be a priority for every municipality in Fulton County. I really don't see a "City Manager" promoting that as an alternative form of government. How about thinking a little bigger, like sitting down with all of the county leadership and exploring a county executive?

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MrBoB51

Jul-25-14 7:46 AM

JustAnotherOpinion....Take a look at what your screen-name entails, I didn't see 'only my opinion counts' and just for the record we are Americans and we question everyone and everything. Who the h*ll are YOU to try to set standards as to what is or is not valid??? You seem to be in the wrong place.

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MrBoB51

Jul-25-14 7:35 AM

As clue very aptly alluded to there are times when events bring people with many differences together to support a beneficial cause. I don't think clue is asking for advice, just my experience. All I can say clue is as I did, you have to explore the details and outcomes of other areas that have implemented this form of local governance. Look at NYS Home Rule provisions, there you might find some rational too. As I said in another post this is unlike our Federal Govt. in that qualifications for the position of City or County Manager is based on skill, ability and a proven record, not a personality contest. The intended outcome is greater local control by way of Citizen involvement and a desire for Economic growth. As clue has, I urge everyone to put aside partisanship and get involved with all aspects of this proposal. My 'advice' therefore is..get involved and be informed, don't let others decide for you.

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Annarondac

Jul-25-14 5:52 AM

The only bad comments I have heard have been about Mr. King. I think Gloversville is open to this new idea, and I urge the citizens to explore all facts. Those who ask the hard questions should be greeted as favorably as those who ask the easy ones.

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JudyMarcoux

Jul-24-14 11:05 PM

I support the manager/council form of government for our city. Politics and infighting has gotten in the way of moving our city forward. Childish games are being played at the expense of the citizens and taxpayers.

There are many rumors and untruths running rampant all over the city and some have made it an Us Vs.Them war with accusations and name calling.I would urge all concerned citizens to attend the planned informational meetings, ask questions, make your concerns known, and please attend with an open mind.

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drugsrus

Jul-24-14 2:57 PM

Clue, I can answer both of your last rants in one post. I do NOT live in MC, as a matter of fact I left the Peoples Republic of Noooo Yawk over 40 yrs. ago and don't ever plan on becoming a resident again. But Johnstown IS my hometown.

Where did you find "racism" in my last post??? Please explain why it is that IF anyone disagrees with the boy king staying in our White House between vacations, is labeled a racist.

It will definitely be a hard thing to do, but taking politics out of city government and managing the city as a business will be a good thing.

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Jake00

Jul-24-14 2:38 PM

I agree with Annarondac, if anyone has been through this process, I would like to hear about it. The city manager from Batavia came to speak to the council and he certainly wasn't a resident. Lets hear all the pros and cons.

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PleaseGetAClue

Jul-24-14 2:25 PM

Drugs....do you live in Montgomery County? or do you just attend the ARC day program there?

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PleaseGetAClue

Jul-24-14 2:23 PM

drugs, REALLY? where does "Barry" fit into this discussion? WOW, you ARE filled with racist hatred little boy, you should seek help before you reach your teens.

can't you see how idiotically childish you look with your posts like that? If I can borrow one of your childish quotes for just a moment..."YOU Just keep drinking the Glenn Beck Kool-Aid" there sonny" maybe with some professional help, someday you'll be a funtioning adult and maybe you'll even able to think for your own. PS: I will be at the meetings and I will ask questions important to me. Why don't you look me up?

I've met your type many times before, uninformed and think you have everything figured out....

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Annarondac

Jul-24-14 2:11 PM

PS Only I am answerable to me. Thank Goodness!

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Annarondac

Jul-24-14 2:07 PM

Sorry opinion, I do have a vested interest in this and I will voice my opinion. I also see no disadvantage for all information regarding this change of government to be discussed, and all questions answered. An informed electorate makes wise decisions.

Does anyone remember the infamous Mayor Bob Filner of San Diego? In 2006, San Diego went from a City Manager to a Strong Mayor form of government. This was debated, public forums held and the voters made an informed decision. A strong mayor could not be removed from office, so it was extremely hard to get Filner removed. If Gloversville does approve a city manager, perhaps it should be for a 5 year temporary period, as San Diego did, so that if it does not work, it can easily, be changed. Since I have also studied this, I feel my opinions are valid and informed.

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drugsrus

Jul-24-14 1:55 PM

well ClueI can see you need to be guided through everything with those statements. Here's a tip -- attend every session where this will be discussed, keep your eyes and ears wide open, and do not jump to any conclusions. This can be government at it's best with an informed public taking part. And due to a myriad of variables the experiences of those in Montgomery County will definitely not be the same path that the small city of Gloversville will experience. BUT for this to work you can't be on Barry's Koolade, you will need to think for yourself.

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JustAnotherOpinion

Jul-24-14 11:38 AM

Annarondac, who are you to ask questions of these people. You do not even live in Gloversville. You get no vote. Sorry. These hard working people are not answerable to you.

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PleaseGetAClue

Jul-24-14 11:20 AM

advice

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PleaseGetAClue

Jul-24-14 11:19 AM

And I NEVER asked for his advise, I asked what his experiences were...that's much different but with your obvious lack of comprehension skills, you probably didn't understand that fully. That's why you should have an adult present with you when you're here.

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