If anything, I expect it to get worse. New York State taxes are the worst of the 50 states, and current leadership is disinclined to remediate. In addition, more people will probably apply for assistance which is provided, of course, by the taxpayer. Is it any surprise that the "producers" are fleeing the State?
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What (if anything) will change that will, can, could, should, or would be a reason anything will improve???
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I agree there have been no changes in any of the factors that would spell relief in any way. Our new 10 tax free plan for startup businesses will burden us that pay taxes further, progressive policies unintended consequences again?
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No. Is there a sudden reason to believe otherwise? When this question was posted last year it would have been nice to know what we know today: Individual coverage faliure. This year, however, we DO know Obamacare Part 2, Employer provided Ins. anvil will fall (on us).
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Do we have a local Disneyland? Just wondering. At this point I see that 29% actually think it will. Must be those on the dole.
Previous posters, 5 for 5. The biggest whiners on this site. Gee I wonder why investors looking for a place to build an industry would pass on Fulton County? I would prefer to see the potential in this location instead of sitting on my hands and wondering why they smell. The potential expansion of industrial parks at Tryon and the Town of Mohawk (tax revenue from land in another county) are starters. The effort at FMCC on future technologies is another along with the potential expansion of commerce in Gloversville as a result of what Walmart will bring in proximity expansion. Maybe if Gloversville can finally get its act together we can merge the two cities or at least merge services. Maybe if there are more jobs in the county the numbers on the “dole” will decrease. I know those progressive thoughts won’t bode well with the whiners. Too bad, I would rather support progress than hope for continued decline so I can say I told you so.
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BEREAL64, while you are right that there are big piles of potential in the area, it is still in the Peoples Republic of New York. And what incentives are being offered to lure those who can "make things happen"?? Jobs?? at what? $10-$12/hr. with no benefits?? In a $25/hr. economy that won't cut it. And if they might be looking for "skilled" workers, where are they coming from?? All the talented, skilled workers are too old to be hired, even to tech. Or are you forgetting that most employers do not see employees as assets???
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Why shouldn't things get better here? Every porkulus project from Team Obama/Owens comes with it's own set of out-of-state employees. King Cuomo II is bleeding upstate dry and our entire county has less citizens than an apartment building in Cuomo's heartland NYC. All we have here is cheerleaders. No political clout, no connections and NO MONEY. Not going to happen here, period.
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Bereal, do you really think you can get away with trying to redefine what progressives stand for? Let me give you a clue...it's NOT progress as you seem to think, it's rotten, foul decay. It's come down to you're either a Taker or a Maker AND you get to define yourself. Or let somebody like me do it for you.
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Many people were predicting how Global Foundries in Malta, AMD, would trickle over here and economically benefit our area. I was skeptical, still am...or is it too soon to tell? Has anyone heard anything further about this?
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better than when? the area's been dead since the 80's when the E.P.A. cracked down on the skin mills. ya remember those day's. when we all had jobs....it's gonna get better than that?
Weve had the same bums in leadership roles for how many decades now? Tonko,Farley, who knows who else? Can someone please tell me what they've done to help us? They go around tee-heeing w/little old ladies,go to church in Amsterdam to tell more bulh---- & everyone thinks these clowns are accomplishing something.Until we VOTE THEM OUT,nothing changes.
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Some great news! People will be spending less time listening to the propaganda. 2014 will mark the beginning of a massive change for liberal talk radio across the country. In New York, WWRL 1600 AM will flip to Spanish-language music and talk, throwing Ed Schultz, Thom Hartmann, Randi Rhodes, and Alan Colmes off the air. In Los Angeles, KTLK 1150 will be dumping Stephanie Miller, Rhodes, Bill Press and David Cruz off the air in favor of Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. In San Francisco, KNEW 960 will leave Miller, Hartmann, and Mike Malloy without a radio home in the market
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Laker, the Makers stay there where the work is, only the Takers trickle over this way.
The 10 Tax free zones in New York State do not include Fulton County. A restaurant on South Main Street went out of business, in part due to the economic change to the 10 tax free zones. Malta has expanded twice, and yet not one part of Fulton County is profiting from it. It's not big business that's going to change this area, it needs a new focus of the people in it. One down trodden town in Vermont, on the edge of bankruptcy became a foodist's paradise by becoming a popular place to go to dine. Walmart will not change a thing but people with vision and the ability to work hard will.
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Bob – you took a negative position. I disagreed with your position. Almost everything you post here is based on an extreme conservative view. I don’t believe in extremes. I don’t need your definitions, I don’t need your opinion and this community doesn’t need your negative attitude. Obviously most posters here are conservative and are taking a negative attitude towards the question. If there were a few more positive people in this community things might turn. I believe in progress, therefore I consider myself a progressive. I'm not sure how you can redefine that but I'm sure you will throw some conservative babble at it and try.
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Less talkers, more doers.
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Would love to see this area grow,but you must start being real and stop listening to the fiction coming from our officials. Things will never change unless they are voted out.
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BEREAL64, ya gotta do more than wish and have a positive attitude. Try that thing Dorothy did, you know -- close your eyes, click your heels together and mantra- "There's no place like home"
Polished up turds are still turds
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Drugs, I gave several examples why I have a positive attitude. Maybe instead of polishing the turds you should look at it as fertilizer and put it to good use. The state isn’t going to provide mandate relief so stop hitching your prosperity wagon to that mantra. Also, we will not win the casino lottery. Nobody is going to hand Fulton County prosperity. People in this county need to do some work. However, the first thing we need to do is support the efforts that have been started. I think this area has many positives and that’s why I live here. You, on the other hand, ain’t a rose so why are you planting yourself among the so called turds? As I stated in my first post – 5 for 5 whiners and you were one of them. If you don’t like the area - MOVE!
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An over abundance of substandard cheap housing is the greatest magnet for those seeking to either buy cheap houses for renting or those seeking cheap rent. With them they bring a boat load of needs, medical and food subsidies being the greatest. Ridding the area of these dumps should be the first step.
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Also Bob, I guess the question is why would Global Foundries want/need to come to Fulton Co??...they have access to everything they need over there, right in their own backyard...shopping, restaurants, medical facilities, recreational facilities, good schools etc etc.
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oops...first line I meant to say Global Foundry employees.
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We need gaming here in Fulton County. No other part of the state would benefit more than our area. Of course we aren't even considered. That just shows how terrible Mark Butler & Farley are. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
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BEREAL64, I did move -- all the way out of the Peoples Republic of New York. -- 40 years ago. And I really do think the area has loads of potential, BUT seeing the situation from being away (I still have family in the area and I manage to spend a couple of weeks a year in the area) I see that potential wasting away. Other areas were on the search for "casino builders" the day after the election and I posted here that the Fulton County leaders needed to wake up, the train is pulling out. Until the area leaders begin to welcome innovation and try some themselves there will be no "recovery" only continued deterioration.
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