A BIG NO! AHCA. is a funding/payment program that really has nothing to do with actual hands-on 'health care' and everything to do with who pays and how much. We've already seen Ins. companies abandon many market areas, limiting policies and skyrocketing rates. Once this fiasco morphs into a single payer govt. controlled health care system then nobody will benefit except the Government. If you haven't already, ask your own Doctor what he/she thinks about AHCA, their opinion is FAR more noteworthy than any of our partisan comments. After all, they will be the ones most affected, then the rest of us by extension.
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My current health insurance provider is no longer writing policies in my state. So far quotes from other carriers is resulting in a minimum of 154% increase in premiums for less coverage. I cannot help but remember Obama's speech to the unions that his goal is single payer, but he can't do it all at once. I will not pay the higher premium and am sure that they will hit me with the penalty. I don't have a choice. GET RID OF OBAMACARE!
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No way!! Cost will be going up. We have added millions of 18-26 year olds without an increase in premiums to those families who insure them. The money to pay for those additions has to come form somewhere.
Next, we are forcing insurance companies to take on high risk people with pre-existing conditions. Someone also has to pay for that.
Cost will go up while benefits will drop.
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If Democrats were really serious about the cost of Health care they would make ALL health care cost tax free and tax deductible, even on the 1040ez form.
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Another government entitlement pathway built out of quicksand.
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Formerresidentthankgod: "So far quotes from other carriers is resulting in a minimum of 154% increase in premiums for less coverage." ....I have the proposed NYS premiums for individual coverage under the exchange in front of me right now. The HIGHEST proposed monthly premium is from HPIC and that is for Long Island residents: $695.62/month. The lowest proposed premium is $275.68/month in the Rochester area. Please explain to me how you get a 154% increase in premium cost....are you currently paying less than $100/month??? if so why don't you tell us your carrier so we can all go through them.
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@PleaseGetAClue - I read something early that savings or increases varied by state. For example Ohio and California were seeing 50% increases while NY was seeing a decrease. This is because the states were controlling the insurance companies in each state. So in essence, in NYS, we have been screwed for years.
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THIS IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS QUESTION EVER! The only people that need this are the ones that have NOTHING. Under this plan you are much better off not working at all, it fits the democrat voter machine perfectly!
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It's going to have a negative impact on me. However, let's do whatever we can to make sure that the people that have NOTHING continue to have NOTHING. Those people need to realize who's in charge. They should keep going to emergency rooms as they do now. At least that's free for them while it costs you or me $1500+. And why should those 26 and down people have health insurance? After mortgaging their future for college and not being able to get a job, they should also go to the emergency room. And those poor fools that let themselves get cancer or heart disease and can't find insurance? Let's kick them to the curb too because if they led healthy lifestyles they wouldn't get sick. I am really upset over this whole thing.
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A society is judged by how they treat the least among them
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usedtolivethere - Do you know who use the Emergency Rooms the most? That's right the people on medicaid; because they ca't be bothered with making a doctors appointment - it's too much work.
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Continued..... The same people who had free care before have it now. Only 15 million of the 50 million will be aided by this bill. Meanwhile it carries ridiculous requirements like keeping adults on their parents policy until they are 26. There should as a minimum be an additional charge for the added liability. And ten there are the added levels of bureaucracy that add no value and a ton of cost. Prior to ACA the Government had no voice in what was covered and what was not. That was a choice made by the consumer. Now they have a voice in what is covered. And let us not forget about the 20,000 IRS agents needed to manage this at just the IRS. How much did HHS grow by? And then there are the TV ads, assistance grants, and outreach programs. How much are the costing me? I the end, the Total Cost of Health Care or all will go up.
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Scarecrow, that's a pretty broad brush you're using to paint with. do you poll emergency room patients? Hang out there? or just pass along something that you heard. what it all comes down to is no one wants to pay more for anything at the same time wanting a bigger salary for themselves. Greed is the word
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Usedto, I refuse to be judged by moochers.
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Scarecrow - I ABSOLUTELY AGREE with your statement. The decrease shows we've been getting screwed for years......I also want to ask TOT the basis for disagreeing with the FACT I posted? Mental illness I guess. "@PleaseGetAClue - I read something early that savings or increases varied by state. For example Ohio and California were seeing 50% increases while NY was seeing a decrease. This is because the states were controlling the insurance companies in each state. So in essence, in NYS, we have been screwed for years."
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Bobbi you don't have time to be judged by moochers because you spend all of your time judging every one else. Climb off the horse
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I'm seeing a lot of complaints, but no solutions. What is the alternative to ACA?
Those of you who think those without insurance are "moochers" living off the system are ignorant. I had health insurance my whole life, which was canceled when I turned 60. I can't buy insurance at any price because of a pre-existing condition. Hypertension. How many of you have pre-existing conditions?
So what's the answer? Go back to the free markets where insurance companies can charge $1150 a month (my last premium)? Where they can cancel your insurance without notice? When an accountant at MVP sends a newborn to Albany Med but won't let the mother go and keep her at NL?
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I don't know what the answer is but I do know that this is not it. I do know that my insurance is going up and my quality is going down. I do know that almost no one knows what is going on and a lot of people are bailing including the President's supporters. If it's not good enough for Congressional workers, AFl-CIO and such then it's probably not good enough for me.
How about this. Why not open up Medicare to everyone? If you want to stay with your present insurance company, go ahead. If not, join Medicare.
Obamacouldcareless HELLthcare is brilliant. With the death boards and all the bureaucracy not only can crooked politicians (and the IRS) line their pockets, old people will be killed off in the millions thereby cutting our social security costs so Obozo can put more of his non-workers on SS disability. Brilliant!
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Well I cant tell you one thing you cannot do is make Health Care be free. There are certain things you can self medicate or self heal and do not need a doctor for. Making doctor and ER visits free will only encourage these things be used for the sniffles or hangnails, thus taking valuable resources away form those who really need care.
Scarecrow, that's a pretty broad brush you're using to paint with. do you poll emergency room patients?
I have on occasion had the opportunity to visit the ER. I also know people who work the ER and state that 75% of the people who go there are on medicaid (aka it is FREE) and they are there for non-emergencies.
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The lefties say that they are there to help the less fortunate, that is a blatant lie. The are in it for the skim, and the votes that their give away artists have perpetrated. Go see who got exemptions from OBAMACARE... it aint the republicans, and it isn't the working taxpayers it is the friends of Pelosi... Reid and of course Obama... and many of his thug suns get free medical, the real plan that was reserved for only those that earned it. Nope now it is for the wanters over the workers... fairness has evaporated.
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The time is now to defund Obamacare... shut the government down! The spending is out of control this healthcare is a boondoggle and the time to act is now. 2 weeks away from shut it DOWN!
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Wow. TOT, there is something seriously wrong with you. Don't you understand that the sequester, and something like shutting the government down impacts people? The article in the LH yesterday said that part of the reason that Carville Leather was closing was the sequester cuts.
My sister-in-law is returning from yet another tour in Afghanistan in a month. She's retiring from the Army and had a job in Washington waiting for her. That job just vanished thanks to the sequester.
Your hate and anger blinds you to the fact that Americans are impacted by these things. You have no compassion for anyone.
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