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Do you think the new Common Core educational standards adopted by New York state's schools are a positive change?

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revoltnow

Sep-05-13 4:12 PM

i wanna know when these tards are gonna step up and take responsibility for the shape of the country. it's not a bunch of pot-heads with G-E-D's makin this mess.

change in Education? yeah.. how bout turnin out a few more smart ones...

ow aout yours. but my school taxes have doubled in the last 10 years. and i'm sure that not one graduating class since has made a difference.. unless you wanna talk about the bad differences??

keep on payin for what? dumb asperators!!!!!

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drugsrus

Sep-05-13 5:54 PM

Common Core is not education -- it is indoctrination

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drugsrus

Sep-05-13 9:39 PM

so explain to me how and why Common Core is a good thing.

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MrBoB51

Sep-06-13 7:40 AM

What do you call it when the Fed. Dept. of Education rewrites the laws on the books to eliminate and redirect local and State control of education to the Fed. Govt.??? Tyranny and National control of education. NO intrusion or authority like this is given in the US Constitution which is the supreme Law of the land. Remember, the 10th. Amendment clearly states that everything not mentioned is reserved to the STATES. Education is a STATE issue that has been usurped by a collectivist ideology supported by liberal progressives in Washington.

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TiredOfTax

Sep-06-13 7:50 AM

NYS has $300 Billion in debt. How much more education do you suppose they need? YUP LOTS!

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Hilltopper

Sep-06-13 12:58 PM

Common Core will be just another failed program thought up by a room full of institutional eggheads who had to come up with something or be out on the street. For a nation so h-ell been on promoting diversity, its laughable that they think all kids are destined, with the right educational smoke and mirrors, to become rocket scientists. Beside, half the people think its better to beat the system than to be a working, contributing part of the system. And, until the powers to be be grow a set and prove them wrong, they just may be on to something.

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Scarecrow57

Sep-06-13 1:13 PM

"so explain to me how and why Common Core is a good thing."

Easy enough. You must set standards that teachers each too. Allowing teachers to teach to their own standards and what they want to teach is the very definition of Chaos.

Secondly. When one has gotten to the sixth grade in a school like Gloversville, it is important to know the are up to the same standards as kids in other schools. What if that child transfers schools or states. In a highly mobile society like the one that exists in the 21st century this happens often.

Now I realize teachers loved being able to get tenure and then ride the wave. Those days are over, they must start working for their pay check. This is not to say all teachers do that, but far too many do.

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Scarecrow57

Sep-06-13 1:14 PM

So know. Tell me why teaching all kids to a common minimal standard is bad.

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Hilltopper

Sep-06-13 2:00 PM

A teacher spends a disproportionate amount of time getting the little lost sheep over the fence while the others are twiddling their thumbs. It gums up progress. Minimum standard are great if mediocrity is the goal. Low graduation rates are an indication that school is not on the priority list of many. Let them quit school, but first sign off on welfare benefits. Then the schools will be left to those who want to be successful in life, not just meet minimum standards.

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drugsrus

Sep-06-13 3:29 PM

Scarecrow, what you are missing is that Common Core is a method of indoctrination. I heard (in an ad on TV chastising either NJ or PA) that state testing takes away from teaching the subject. HUH???? Excuse me for being old, but it a subject is taught properly and you have students willing to learn, state tests are a no-brainer. Why was there never a problem before????? or maybe we (as students back then) were too stupid to know that we had rights and we didn't aks questions like " Why I gotta no dat dum stuff?"

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drugsrus

Sep-06-13 3:33 PM

and Scarecrow, there were always "standards" that the student had to maintain and the subject matter was also somewhat "standardized" --- It's a sad shame that more is not expected of the kiddies like there was way back in the old days.

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drugsrus

Sep-06-13 4:12 PM

and among the "standards" is teaching the kids that the government is like "family" and you need family to help you.

Let's get back to the Constitution where there are no career politicians and they spend their own money for travel etc.

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drugsrus

Sep-06-13 9:22 PM

Hill, Colorado had a paper for the dropouts to sign that stated something similar to that. It also added that we are not responsible for your failures in life.

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MrBoB51

Sep-07-13 9:35 AM

Hill, when this 'education' pimple comes to a head most of our generation either won't be around or care to clean the mess off the mirror.

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GetRealPeeps

Sep-07-13 9:36 AM

Ha, this is too much. Each and every one of you day in and day out complaining about something. Always bickering back and forth like school children. You complain about everything under the sun and when there is nothing to complain about you fight with each other. Why don't you all get off your lazy butts and get away from the pc and start doing something with your lives instead of complaining. Be the change you want to see in the world....go put all that hot air to use someplace else. Or do you all hide behind a monitor?

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Scarecrow57

Sep-07-13 9:42 AM

A teacher spends a disproportionate amount of time getting the little lost sheep over the fence while the others are twiddling their thumbs.

It used to be the children were grouped by skill level. We had A group, B Group, C group, and D group.

By doing this everyone benefited. I assume they still do this or did that practice end in favor of everyone must win.

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Scarecrow57

Sep-07-13 9:45 AM

"Scarecrow, what you are missing is that Common Core is a method of indoctrination."

I can see that happening when it comes to civics or history. However when you get to the more important subjects like English, Math, and Sciences there is no indoctrination possible. Unless of course they teach this Anthropegenic Global Warming hoax as fact.

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MrBoB51

Sep-07-13 9:52 AM

Drugs, I caught that remark by Sebelius telling us the Federal Govt. is our Federal 'Family'. What, like 'Mother Russia'??? So now our Govt is our Mommy and Daddy?? That's the sort of crap our children are learning both in and out of our schools. This is an example of the 'soft tyranny of low expectations' that permeates the education system and defines in part the liberal/progressive/collectivist doctrine.

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MrBoB51

Sep-07-13 9:56 AM

You just described yourself peeps, sitting on your lazy butt in front of your pc complaining about everybody else. Welcome to the conversation!!!

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FormerResidentThankGod

Sep-07-13 11:09 AM

Common Core has been introduced to eliminate the truthful history of our country. Cursive writing will no longer be part of the curriculum. Many historical documents, including the Constitution will be foreign to the products of this indoctrination. History will be whatever the government decides it wants it to be. It has become painfully obvious that the government can no longer be trusted as they continue to tell lies when the truth is obvious through facts and footage available to all of us. I won't be around much longer, but the today's parents need raise holy h*ll and get this garbage thrown out before it's too late.

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MrBoB51

Sep-08-13 8:59 AM

Formerresident, the fact that travon martin's girlfriend 'precious' couldn't read cursive or much else for that matter proves your point, its 'common'.

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Scarecrow57

Sep-08-13 9:20 AM

MrBob - "Drugs, I caught that remark by Sebelius telling us the Federal Govt. is our Federal 'Family'. What, like 'Mother Russia'???"

And yes I agree with you. But what about pledging allegiance to the mother land?? Is that not the same thing? And yes I grew up where we did this every morning. Then in the 60s and 70s we began to question authority.

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Scarecrow57

Sep-08-13 9:23 AM

@FormerResidentThankGod - It isn't the parents or the kids who don't like it. It is the teachers who are being held to a standard. hey have had it easy for so long they really don't like being held accountable. That is what this is all about.

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drugsrus

Sep-08-13 10:25 AM

Scarecrow, the Pledge of Allegiance that we repeated every day is to the American experiment that is still (so far) ongoing. This administration is doing their level best to make us like the European model we broke from 237 yrs. ago. Read the Declaration of Independence and see if you think it is time to re-compose our government.

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MrBoB51

Sep-08-13 1:59 PM

We pledge allegiance to a symbol of freedom for all and to the Republic for which it stands. Not a person, a President or Federal family, and certainly not a 'democracy' but a REPUBLIC. Sadly, way too many believe and have been taught we have a 'democracy' or in essence, mob rule. What they need to be taught is America is a Democratically ELECTED Representative REPUBLIC with LIBERTY and justice for ALL, not a few or 'the chosen' as some would have us believe. One h*ll of a difference. We DO NOT say 'We pledge allegiance to the flag and to the DEMOCRACY for which it stands' for a darn good reason. I don't think it's a matter of questioning authority scare, to me it's a matter of not understanding or being taught what type of Government we have. Take Egypt for example; a democratic mob threw out one leader, the same mob elected another, a year later the same mob threw out THAT leader. That's what Democracy looks like, a mob with no direction.

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