It is serious, however overage drinking is even more problematic. One night I came down first ave at about 10PM and saw a drunk couple holding each other up while walking, another was staggering towards downtown. As far as underage drinking kids need to be held accountable for their actions.If they are caught community service could be mandated. There are many places in town that can be cleaned up by energetic young people.
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Was it ever a problem???? When are the "adults" going to realize that this behavior is part of growing up ???? Why is it that some adults seem to forget that they too were once young ?? It may be more common today because of the great lack of parenting and the attitude of today's youth that "I can do what ever I want"
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It always has been a problem. Kids are experimenting with something that they have no clue what the effects are or how their body will tolerate it. Not to mention the legal trouble that comes with it, hard to do but we need to discourage underage drinking and need to promote sensible drinking habits for all ages.
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and let's not forget that the legal drinking age in NY was 18 for a long time.
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It would be nice if the kids had something to do other than drink, drugs, then perform community service.
Perhaps high schools could have a required class in volunteering. Kids could choose volunteering experiences that follow their interests/career aspirations. This could be life-changing and promote less self-centeredness.
Peaceful, that was tried in a school district near me and it fell on its face. In days gone by, there never was much "community activity" for the young'uns, but somehow we managed to find things to do that didn't involve breaking the law. Sometimes we did really crazy things like play board games, have a cribbage tournament, put together a 1000 piece puzzle. We didn't need a three ring circus to not be bored. Need outdoor activity? Hike up Kane Mountain, walk to anywhere, they didn't build the Rail Trail just to spend money. We have similar trails on old railroad beds near here (Hellertown, PA) and it is probably the same demographic using it as is the FJ&G trail - old people and younger families with the kiddies riding tricycles and big wheels.
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Pards, the only energy a lot of these kids have is enough to tip back a bottle of bud.
What we have is a big brother problem. There should be no drinking age. Let our youth learn to drink responsibly with adult supervision. As it is, we send them off to college unsupervised where they learn to drink and get in trouble.
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Drugs, just because it fell on its face in one district don't mean it shouldn't be considered. A required hiking class would work just as well.
Community Service? Hiking? You have got to be kidding! What these kids needs is a parent who care enough to know where their underage child is going, who they are with, give the a curfew and be willing to stay awake and actually see the child return home and what condition they are in when they do return. Hand out some punishments once in awhile and follow through on being a responsible parent!
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Sorry for the typos. New computer with a different keyboard from the old one! I'll get use to this yet!
Peaceful, good idea, I'm sure the youth of Fulton County have a w-a-y different perspective than those anywhere else and they are waiting for the chance to volunteer their time to get a passing grade. In case you missed it most of them can't even read or write at "grade Level".
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Of course parenting is so important, but bad parenting isn't going to change that quickly, whereas positive changes can probably happen more quickly in school. Also, kids are very similar in most counties in this region of the USA.
@PeacefullWorld, I really would like to agree with you, but can't for the simple reason that the kids who would sign up for classes or community service are the kids who do not go out drinking, party or do drugs. This goes for the youth of any city or State.
So 75% of the responders think there is a serious problem. I'll bet that is probably the same number that would have answered the question 'yes' 50 yrs. ago
Rocky1 - that's why it would need to be a required course for graduation.
Peaceful, for what it's worth, most would rather not graduate than volunteer, which adds up to a deeper reason grad rates are down.
Drugs, I'm so glad you have a special linkage into everyone's brain. You're so special! Who else would be able to know that "most would rather not graduate than volunteer." And it's soooo helpful to look at the negative side of life all of the time instead of anything positive! Way to go!!!!!!
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Easy - raise driving age to 21 - lower drinking age to 18.
Peaceful drugs doesn't need any special "linkage"...its fact that graduation rates have been declining. And bad parenting is never going to change. It's not the schools responsibility to teach children not to drink because they are underage! Most of the schools struggle to teach basics. Let's face it probably the kids who are drinking underage are not showing up for school.
Looking back, when I was in high school they had a dance almost every weekend. We always had something to do. All the kids I knew would go to the dances and listen to the local bands. But first we would buy a six pack of Piel's Real Draft for 99 cents and drink it in the cemetery. And, before long we would turn 18, be "grown up", and be able to go to the packed bars like Sarris's, the Bronze Bell, or Club Delmar and "be legal." Unless, of course, you got a low number in the draft lottery and were sent to Viet Nam for your senior trip. Teens are bombarded with parental messages to do this or don't do that. In the long run, most are smart enough to figure it out for themselves. A few will fall through the cracks, but what else is new?
thank you getreal and Hilltopper. Peaceful, maybe you can enlighten me as to the reason that graduation rates were not a problem in years gone by. And why many of those who feel they are college ready are far from it. I really don't think it is a teacher problem. I heard the other day that teaching to state testing is taking away from teaching the subject. HUH ????? If the student learns the subject, the test should not be a problem. At least it wasn't when I went to school
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If you feel your teen will never drink, you also probably think that teenage sex is a "not my kid" kind of problem. A hangover lasts a day. The consequences of sex can last a lifetime. As a parent, if you invested time and love in your child you did your part and your kid will have some good decision making skills. However, those raging teenage hormones can cloud one's decision making. My dad told me over fifty years ago that if I was dumb enough to have sex I should at least be smart enough not to make a baby. And that was in the old days when you had to ask the pharmacist for "protection". That bit of advice is still valid fifty years later. It is far better to talk to your kids once than lecture ten times.
shouldn't the focus be on. Un-Responsible drinking. why does being UNDERAGE mean anything when it's the carnage and mayhem that a Drunk does that's wrong. don't hange your heads kids... there's many many more of them.
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