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Do you agree with a state appeals court's ruling that New York City exceeded its legal authority when it decided to ban big soft drinks?

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MrBoB51

Jul-31-13 10:12 AM

I agree but Bloomburg will just use Obamas formula; ignore the Courts, issue tickets and fight each case individually causing small business's to cave due to the high Court costs (where they would win anyhow!). Fatigue them into compliance is the liberal way when they lose cases like this.

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Scarecrow57

Jul-31-13 10:58 AM

Absolutely!!! This is AMERICA - Land of the FREE. Our fore fathers intended a country where people were free to do as they please, even if it was not in their best interest.

This notion that the Government is your savior is pure poppycock .

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PeacefulWorld

Jul-31-13 10:59 AM

Yes, I agree that NYC exceeded its legal authority in this case, but I loved Bloomberg's thinking on this subject and feel this incident brought a lot of attention to the fact that soda is a big contributor to obesity and early dentures. Bloomberg's certainly done a lot to improve NYC.

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Scarecrow57

Jul-31-13 11:44 AM

PeacefulWorld - I would like 4 quarter Pounders, 2 Large Fries, and a 32oz Diet Coke.

Please tell me how this 32 oz drink with a couple of calories is the problem?

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rschweizer

Jul-31-13 1:03 PM

Ah, typical Republican 'don't tell me what to do even though it may actually help me' attitude.

What these people don't realize is that in curbing the sugary substances, that are catered to people that are statiscally more prone to diabetes and other ailments: poor people.

Fast food restaurants far outnumber other restaurant types in neighborhoods where the poor live.

You know what else is high in poor neighborhoods? Unhealthy, fat, lazy people mooching off the welfare system who aren't educated about healthy diet choices and so will take McDonald's over cooking food THEMSELVES any chance they get.

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rschweizer

Jul-31-13 1:06 PM

Scarecrow57, I think you need to crack open a fact sheet so you can see how poor people are more probable to go for unhealthy deep-fried food over any other type of food. Years and years of doing this will KILL you. Why is this so hard to believe?

Then who foots the bill for all those poor peoples' medical expenses? YOU AND ME.

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rschweizer

Jul-31-13 1:09 PM

Case in point, I was at Great Escape over the weekend and couldn't believe the number of trashy people with massive 64oz sodas that the park was charging about $15 for BUT came with unlimited refills. Guess who the types of people were that had those drink: poor and uneducated about healthy food choices.

I actually heard one of the co-workers say to another at about 7:00pm as we were leaving 'You better get ready because in about an hour they're gonna bum-rush this place with one more refill for the road.'

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rschweizer

Jul-31-13 1:11 PM

Hey, Scarecrow, you think 'obamacare' is gonna cost you a lot now? Wait until all the poor people of today eating all the crap they do get older and start aging and have loads and loads of ailments, not the least will include morbid obesity, diabetes, and heart disease.

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Pards13

Jul-31-13 1:34 PM

I can't afford the great escape let alone a $15 soda. Just a thought, maybe we should take soda off the approved food for EBT. Naw too easy.

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PeacefulWorld

Jul-31-13 1:50 PM

Prevention is so important to keeping health care costs down. But people would rather live in excess and then demand every possible medical treatment/surgery available.

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TiredOfTax

Jul-31-13 1:57 PM

It is the liberal/progressives that just know that YOU cannot take care of yourself and it is THEIR governments job to sweep you all under their wing and keep you safe from yourself! Or you can join the republicans who can take care of themselves and do not need everyday guidance from guys like RS in every simple mundane task!

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drugsrus

Jul-31-13 2:13 PM

Peaceful, it is not up to the government to "help" us make the all so important "healthy choices".

We are all going to die anyway - might as well be fat, dumb, and happy.

BUT in a free society that is my decision to make

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drugsrus

Jul-31-13 2:16 PM

swizzer, I think you just found your next career. Educating the poor and uninformed that they need to make more healthy choices in their diet.

Do gooders unite, swizzer is your new leader.

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PleaseGetAClue

Jul-31-13 2:17 PM

Scarecrow: "Please tell me how this 32 oz drink with a couple of calories is the problem?"

The average 32 oz cup of soda has approximately 472.5 calories....since when is 472.5 a "couple"?

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Scarecrow57

Jul-31-13 2:19 PM

Ah, typical AMERICAN 'don't tell me what to do even though it may actually help me' attitude.

There fixed it.

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PeacefulWorld

Jul-31-13 2:21 PM

So drugs, if you're gonna die anyway - you might as well forego all the expensive health care and surgeries to correct the consequences of your fatness.

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rschweizer

Jul-31-13 2:21 PM

drugsrus, I never said I'd go on educating anyone. And guess what: I don't need anyone to tell when to stop eating, or that deep-fried this and that is bad for me.

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Scarecrow57

Jul-31-13 2:24 PM

" I think you need to crack open a fact sheet so you can see how poor people are more probable to go for unhealthy deep-fried food over any other type of food"

And ask this. Why do they go for fast food? It is quick and easy. AKA - They are LAZY! Which is why they are poor.

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Scarecrow57

Jul-31-13 2:26 PM

"Hey, Scarecrow, you think 'obamacare' is gonna cost you a lot now? Wait until all the poor people of today eating all the crap they do get older and start aging and have loads and loads of ailments, not the least will include morbid obesity, diabetes, and heart disease."

We already pay for those people.

Do you also think we should tax people who don't exercise 5 times a week too????? There is the real problem, not a 32 oz drink.

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Scarecrow57

Jul-31-13 2:27 PM

"Prevention is so important to keeping health care costs down. But people would rather live in excess and then demand every possible medical treatment/surgery available."

There is a saying, you can lead a horse to water , but you can't make her drink.

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Scarecrow57

Jul-31-13 2:29 PM

The average 32 oz cup of soda has approximately 472.5 calories....since when is 472.5 a "couple"?

When the drink inside is DIET Coke/Pepsi.

How about another question. Why limit these "poor" people to 16 oz drinks in McDonalds and then turn them loose in Hanford to buy 64oz Pepsi with the EBT??????

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Scarecrow57

Jul-31-13 2:32 PM

rs?? If you are worried about he health of the poor then why not cut their EBTs? And while you are at give them Gym Memberships. Let me know how many actually do as they are told.

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LoyalSocialist

Jul-31-13 3:17 PM

I get the concept that Bloomberg was going for, but I do not agree with forcing people to limit their intake of soda. The issue I see is that low-income Americans do eat excessive amounts of processed food due to lack of education and lack of income. A box of mac & cheese is 25 cents, while a bag of raw spinach is over $2. Thus why low-income Americans are less healthy and contribute to the growing health care costs attributed to obesity. They are also more likely to be smokers, which costs even more money than obesity. Maybe instead of continually increasing food stamp benefits, the government should be extending small grants to dietary experts to educate low-income families about how to cook healthy meals on the cheap? If we can save $ while creating jobs, it may benefit us in the long run. The problem is, our government is always looking for short-term fixes instead of thinking about preventing the issues before they start.

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PeacefulWorld

Jul-31-13 4:31 PM

We already have the WIC program (Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children through the US Department of Agriculture). And Cornell Cooperative Extension does a lot of nutritional education locally. Eventually we'll get to a point (due to overpopulation and lack of health care dollars) where it will be so difficult to have certain medical procedures done, that people will be FORCED to do the right things or die.

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TiredOfTax

Jul-31-13 9:26 PM

Remember the death panels that do not exist? More librerish! Howard Dean wrote in the Wall Street Journal that ObamaCare’s IPAB needs to be “removed.” He explains why in terms that will be familiar to those of us who have opposed the ObamaCare Tax nightmare from the beginning:

One major problem is the so-called Independent Payment Advisory Board. The IPAB is essentially a health-care rationing body. By setting doctor reimbursement rates for Medicare and determining which procedures and drugs will be covered and at what price, the IPAB will be able to stop certain treatments its members do not favor by simply setting rates to levels where no doctor or hospital will perform them.

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