Absolutely not. Their workers will still have to be on public assistance due to their awful pay/benefits and the pittance of tax they will EVENTUALLY pay will be nothing compared to what the profits they sucker out of the poor will be. Just shows how desperate that area is for "business".
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I think its great that you are getting your new Walmart. However, the last time that I was in a Walmart, there wasn't an economy improving department. May the added jobs and tax revenue help at least some while the oppressive/corrupt/evil government hurts all.
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I guess the awful pay/benefits beats not having a job at all. Brilliant!
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They don't even offer benefits to most of their employees, thus they have to be on some sort of medicaid/state insurance paid for by the taxpayers. FC needs high-tech manufacturing jobs and careers for the educated to improve the economy. The "better than nothing" mindset is why that area is a job desert and why educated young people are leaving in droves. Enjoy your cheap chinese made crap!
@LoyalSocialist - Apparently you know nothing of Walmart wages or benefits. They pay some positions fairly well. And yes hey do offer ESPP, 401K, Health Insurance, Paid Holidays, etc. You really need to stop drinking the liberal kool-aid.
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Walmart pays well for the work done. I also know for a fact the have hired some more people. However, the store will only employee 200 people tops.
It will also attract the same people spending the same money, however, instead of going to Hannaford or Price Chopper Some will shop at the Walmart.
There will be NO Net Gain.
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New York will never attract the jobs that you desire. The state is way down on business friendly lists. Maybe the county should ban all business unless the companies meet your criteria.
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I agree that NY is not a business friendly environment, but Fulton County doesn't offer anything worthwhile, other than an uneducated workforce (perfect for Wal-Mart). I live in an area in NY that is doing pretty well right now and a large number of manufacturing businesses have been expanding and relocating here, due to lower taxes, an educated workforce. strong infrastructure, and a lack of political bickering. And Scarecrow, SOME of them are offered those benefits, but the bulk are part-time/on-call, so they cannot receive or cannot afford benefits (if offered). And kool-aid is gross, I prefer coffee because it wakes you up to see how big corporations are in the pockets of our government.
and vice versa.
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Loyal, I agree. I'd also add why on earth anyone would think the local economy would grow from a store that's just rebuilding after having been here forever It was one of the first in the area- why didn't the economy improve when it first opened?
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Scarecrow57, you are probably the only one on the face of the planet that thinks WM benefits are worthwhile.
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Wally world will not save the Village of Gloversville. The Super Duper center will have more of the same items and less of a selection. Amsterdam is living proof. Once they had 6 different items on a shelf...poof...super center now has 3 items in that same space. When you should be able to do all your shopping in one spot you will find you'll be burning up more gas driving to other stores to get what you need! I don't call that saving money!
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Wally world is also known for doing away with workers as they get to the top of the pay scale since they can hire cheaper workers to do that job. Ask some current workers about that.. where did the experience ones disappear too? No they were not promoted.
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To cut cost they will hire more part timers since Obamacare would cost them more if they had more full time workers. Let me ask you this. If Wally World was so great to start with, why didn't the city try to Annex the 5th Ave. location for the sales tax revenue from the Town?
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rschweizer...maybe scarecrow is the store manager (or at least the one wearing the coat this week!)
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Where is this mythical place in NY that is doing well?
Gloversville city will get a boost in tax dollars but will promptly spend everything that they bring in. No relief to taxpayers. As far as for jobs and employment... no gains whatsoever. For every part time position to avoid paying benefits(because of Obamacare)there will actually be more people employed but also just like nationally many more that are NOT FULL time employees. Another result of our tendency to mandate what private companies can do.
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I have always considered Wal-Mart to be in Gloversville whether it was in city limits or not. The tax revenue is merely shifting from the town to the city. Does this really improve anything? For instance the town now has less money to maintain the roads which would bring people into Gloversville. Just a shell game that does not truly create a great benefit to anyone in the end. Net jobs created are not enough to make a difference and tax revenue does not solve the issue of drawing business and worth while employment. Without a healthy tourist industry, retail will not save us.
rsweizer"a store that's just rebuilding after having been here forever It was one of the first in the area" Obviously you do not remember Britts, Nichols, Kings, Jamesway, Barkers,etc.....certainly not one of the "first".
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TiredOfTax, you and I may be able to agree on one thing with this: whatever ADDITIONAL tax revenue Wal-Mart brings in will just be sent on something else by the local genius government in place.
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TTM you hit the nail on the head, steal money from the towns to give it to g'ville. They seem to manage there money so well. This is a prime example why we need the new "smartwater" plan . this will level the playing field and take the " water as a weapon" mentality away from the city the
JohnSteady, one of my clients is a firm in DC that's currently suing Wal-Mart for bribery allegations. To give you a sense in how corrupt this organization is, the billable hours alone total in the 3,000-plus range in just 3-4 months, when an average low-level lawyer at a very large firm puts in between 1500-2000 billable hours a YEAR total. That's how badly they want to continue the case.
Today I read an article in the Washington Post that said Wal-Mart is threatening to pull 3 planned stores if the DC city government raised the minimum wage to $12.
This from a company that makes billions a year every year.
rs When does your bs stop. If you are that good, WHY do you post on here? Your hours should be with the firm and the big bucks. LOL
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TTM; When i said 'it was one of the first in the area' I mean one of the first Wal-Marts. I know people from the Amsterdam area that would go up to Gloversville to shop there because they didn't get theirs until 1995-96 or so.
And yes, I distinctly remember those places, but you left out Ames!
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PS. Are you the low level lawyer or the high end lawyer?? Imagine an entire firm from D.C. hiring you.
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