Come on LH, we discussed this to death in August of last year, nothings changed. Mont. Co. voted last Oct. not to put up 50k for their share of the study. Whether we want it or not seems to be moot at this point.
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Let me put it to you this way. I avoid 30A from just past Gloversville to Fonda. Which means all of those surrounding areas lose out too. It is far to congested there. Rerouting thruway bound traffic away from the business district makes it much more likely people will do business in the business district.
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Of course it would benefit the area as would have the thruway to Northway 26 miler that was proposed back in the day, but it's not going to happen. The cost is prohibitive and our congressman has no seniority or juice so there is no Federal money. Cuomo could care less about upstate so there will be no state money. Game, set, match. Spend your next vacation visiting ghost towns in the west and you'll see Fulton/Montgomery county in about 40 years.
I'll gladly take fair market value for my home. Bring it through my property and I'm outta here.
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Seeing how the local economy is propped up on social aid programs I don't see how traffic going one way or the other will effect the economy. I guess local shops may lose the business of the crack and the bath salts suppliers making deliveries though.
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I think this topic is a rerun.
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It may benefit the area... but is it worth the costs? NOPE!
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Adirondackal, Check out what happened to the rte 20 businesses when the thruway opened. You know it is going to happen here as well! Maybe simply because of the price of fuels!
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Stupid nimby's: want want it, just not here!
Or better yet: we want it, but just don't want to pay for it, even though 'Have Albany pay for it!' really means YOUR taxdollars.
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rs - I'm going to put in a solar electric system. The only thing that made it economically feasible (and thus lowered the cost of my electricity) was the state and federal subsidies and tax breaks. Or as you say, your tax dollars.
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It will get built only after 30a in downtown Fonda caves in. Being a State Highway and not a Town or County road it is NYSDOT's problem, not the Town of Mohawk's where we're (T)axed (E)nough (A)lready. In fact, the whole blasted State is TEA. Let's work on that instead.
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Why is this even still being considered? You could have a double-lane highway going right through the area and it really wouldn't make a lick of difference if there isn't any industry or professional careers available. There are so many more things that the counties should be investing in, such as making FMCC a 4-year college, that would not only increase the intelligence of the residents, but would bring in high-tech and modern industry to the area. Also, college kids spend money. Take a look at Oneonta. Small city with 2 colleges that thrive on business from students, parents, and professors. Plus they host events/clinics/camps during the summer to bring in even more revenue. It's a win-win-win situation. But the elected officials keep throwing their hope at "da Wal-Marts" project.
This is the stupidest thing ever---wasting tax dollars trying to figure out how to get big trucks off the Thruway in Fultonville avoiding the Villages of Fonda and Fultonville in an effort to get them to a not-even-built park at the former Tryon location. This would require another bridge over the Mohawk to do this and I don't think anyone has given that any consideration of the cost that will take let alone where they will make big trucks haul their heavy loads uphill to Johnstown geographically in the winter here in Upstate NY. Spend MY tax dollars on something else!!!
Scarecrow57, I wholly agree with you except this topic isn't about solar panels.
Stay on topic- no hijacking this.
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LoyalSocialist, h-ell if that wasn't a good point. These local pols are so bent on those thieves at Wal-Mart paying peanuts to their employees all the while denying full-time hours and by extension full-time benefits like better insurance.
Not to mention the amount of work I've done pro- bono for people suing Wal-mart for human rights violations. Google a case I'm currently working on as it relates to Mexico: wal-mart fcpa violation
Wal-Mart has an alleged practice of paying off local politicians in foreign countries in exchange for the ability to build a store there. I'd like to know if any of our fair pols know about this.
And lastly, I'd rather set a real example and create 250 full-time jobs versus 500 part-time ones at 30 hours a week.
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Well Rs, being cooped up your cellar you probably don't know that Local Govt's across the Country are cutting employee hours down to avoid the 'better Insurance'. You think it's only Wal-mart. Go have some more cheetos, it's lunch time.
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MrBoB51, Wal-Mart has had a practice of 'cutting employee hours' since the day they were incorporated.
This is nothing new and is certainly not endemic to our little corner of the world.
This is of course not to mention their practice of buying cheaply made Chinese products (remember the American flags made in China?) that simply break or chip within a few months.
And let's not also talk about how they strike exclusive deals with manufacturers to sell products there and no where else, so they can buy them in huge bulk then sell them to consumers dirt cheap, only to actually be poorly made... like those inferior tires.
Wal-Mart: you get what you pay for.
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Portnoy, many of the locals go to FM for many years... but it does not make them doctors. Local is what local does!
The connector highway will benefit FC at the expense of the Town Of Mohawk. Avoiding the businesses in Fonda and Fultonville will lead to a decrease in sales tax revenue, and the parcels taken off the tax rolls for the road will cause an increase in property taxes for the rest of the residents. As a Town of Mohawk resident, the only thing FC has as a worthwhile bargaining chip is on Mudd Road. Let the talks between the Town of Mohawk and FC begin.
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PS: To those on either side of the table, Negotiations are give and take, and if either side is hoping for a slam-dunk, don't even bother wasting our time.
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That's called 'business' Rs. Here's the situation; when the topic was wrestling in NY, there's RS the referee in other States; when the topic was business's, there's Rs the businessman with a lot of time to post here; now the topic is Walmart and there's Rs the Lawyer with, astoundingly, a case against Walmart!!! With you're ongoing disgracefully polemic and undisciplined mind you are no professional, just a wannabe. As an example you completely missed Scares sarcastic point then accuse him of trying to hijack the topic??? You lack the inference and prediction skills required of critical thinking. In a word, you are a phoney.
Disco: "How about a more relevant question, like what are the latest styles of pajama wear in Gloversville this summer?" Just ride by Cumberland farms a few times per day and you'll see the answer for yourself......
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rs - Just pointing out - "Your tax dollars at work" re. Have Albany pay for it..... ;)
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"This is of course not to mention their practice of buying cheaply made Chinese products (remember the American flags made in China?) that simply break or chip within a few months."
Let us be honest here. Were it not that the American consumer bought this cheaply made stuff all with the notion of saving a dime, Walmart would not sell it.
Hilltopper- "The connector highway will benefit FC at the expense of the Town Of Mohawk."
Just a thought, but if trucks had easier access to say the industrial parks that wold be a good selling point to bring in more jobs; more jobs benefits both communities.
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