You can carry pocket knoves but not shampoo? yeah, that makes perfect sense
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Knives not "knoves" sorry about the typo
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PleaseGetAClue, remember when smoking was allowed on planes? That was up to about the early- or mid-nineties. I still remember flying in the late 90's and seeing the ashtrays soldered shut from the days when you could light up.
And lighters and matches on planes were in the days when aircraft hijackings were more common than today, none of which took place by using a freakin' lighter or match to take over the cockpit!
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Back to the beginning. I guess this means we don't need no stinkin' TSA anymore.
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Hey, Just who are the experts here? The TSA has been doing the job for years. I saw recently that Schumer is against it and in my opinion if Schumer is against something, I am all for it. Chuck is in it for the glory, he wants nothing less than the presidency and he needs the popularity to get it done so he leaps in front of any camera aimed at anyone to grab the glory. As far as the knives over liquids, you cannot blow up a plane with a little pocket knife but a small amount of explosives may just get that plane blown to bits. I go with the experts here... the TSA should know what is going on.
TiredOfTax, blowing up a plane isn't the only way to bring it down or take it over. You'd know this if you'd paid any attention to mid-east history form the 60's-80's.
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My question is why now. What is different now to allow pocket knives on a plane and why? Why do you need to carry one on a plane? Will you be gaining a merit badge by flying and having a pocket knife? Or maybe you might be Swiss?? Don't get it!
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As we gradually feel confident to allow restricted items back onto flights I would think this would be towards the end of the list. That being said there will come a day when we have to close this chapter and open back up our liberties and freedoms, after all, isn't that what the fight was for; free will for mankind.
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Gee RS, I didn't list all of the things that could bring down a plane or take one over, but I can see your wisdom prompted you to respond for the less intelligent. How very thoughtful of you. It must be a part of your liberal training? Or is it a request for me to explain everything in great liberal detail and then cast blame on the dolts that do not get it? Like your liberal leaders do?
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Long story hopefully kept short. The first Christmas after 9/11, my son, who was setting up his first apartment on his own, asked that Santa help set up his apartment needs. Most needed was kitchen essentials and items for a bar. Santa complied by giving him some expensive crystal wine glasses and the stocking held items from the dollar store, a rolling pin being one of them. Since he had to board a flight to go back home and not wanting the glasses to break if sent by mail, he placed them in his back pack that he carried onto the aircraft. Some room was left in the pack and he stuffed the rolling pin in too without even thinking of it being a weapon. TSA confiscated the rolling pin, saying it could be used as a club, but allowed him to carry the glassware onboard. We all understood the club as a weapon and apologized, but I guess no one ever thought about how easily those glasses could be broken, becoming sharp objects that could slit a throat. Worried about a small knife?
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I am a retired 32 year flight attendant. F/As are opposed to the knives as they are a weapon period. While they may be small they can maime and or kill when used. Your f/a is there for the safety of the flight. We are the first and last line of defense to the flight deck. In one of the 9/11 hijackings the two f/as in the front were stabbed according to the witness f/a in the back. She was on a phone call to the company until the time the a/c hit the tower. She was describing what what going on in the a/c. There are always going to be issues with what the TSA approves or disapproves as they do not seem to talk to the people first in line. Formerly myself. In reality, if someone wants to bring a plane down, they will find a way. And then, just last week Newark airport TSA missed a fake bomb that did pass thru security. (The gov does tests like these all the time.) What if it had been real and not fake. Our lives are going to be like this for the duration.
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As for the gels and liquids, you can thank a potential bomber who had a liquid and was stopped in flight. As for shoes, you can thank the shoe bomber.........like I said, if someone wants to down an a/c they will find a way, not always successful, but enough to do damage to people's lives. My biggest wish as frequent traveler, is CONSISTENCY, something the airlines are always accused of being unable to provide. Now it is the TSA that can not provide consistency.
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When your number is up... you aint got a thing to say about it. Thats why bad things happen to good people all the time.
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'... take the train'
Yes, beacuse trains have never, ever been the subject of terrorist activity.
-Moscow subway bombings 2010
-Madrid train bombings 2004, which I missed by merely days
-London subway bombings twice in 2005, the second of which a colleague of mine was actually injured
Nope. Never happened.
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One additional comment. Some pilots do carry a hand gun. In order to do so they must first go thru an FAA (?) course and be certified.
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rschweizer, It is great to see that you do not exaggerate anyone's posts. You do not create a problem to exploit to demonstrate your superior intellect... never do that. I believe that what Disc was saying was that the trains have gone virtually unaffected by DOMESTIC violence. The security has not changed much and in the USA there have been few problems with terrorists affecting our rail service. He did not say that there were no vulnerabilities!
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TOT, you always criticize rs for his intellect and accuse him of "knowing everything". Is a mirror handy for you? If so, have a look
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Yes, intellect....you are wasting your time now as you grasp for straws
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Sounds like you drew the short one
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Portnoy may be onto something. New airline and it can be called "Mile High Airways" Any investors??
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By the sounds of it you can just walk in the cockpit of a commercial plane. Just happened.
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Taxtired, only the uninformed would disagree, A Frenchman was arrested after he impersonated a pilot and sat in the cockpit of a US Airways plane in Philadelphia, police say. Go ahead and disagree... it proves that you are wrong!
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