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Do you think the state's property tax cap legislation, enacted in 2011, should be overturned?

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MrBoB51

Mar-03-13 10:21 AM

How do you know who I'm talking about then moderation? Cute dodge though since you mention nothing regarding the Tax Laws regarding ALL Non-Profits which regulate who does and who does not pay taxes. Typical confused progressive clap-trap...step on your d*ck and move on to the next ridiculous assumption...listening to Fox News, my hero being Scalia. I don't watch overly partisan FOX, CNN, or MSNBC and do not need 'hero's', but you Progressives thrive on them, such as the one YOU mentioned, that you supposedly don't know anything about.

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usedtolivethere

Mar-03-13 8:37 AM

There is no such thing in the Constitution as separation of church and state. It says that the government cannot establish a religeon, like the Church of England. If churches aren't to be taxed how do they get away with campaigns to repeal Rowe v Wade?...or telling me which way to vote. They do that then tax em!

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moderation

Mar-02-13 7:45 PM

I've read them all Bob, and never read anything by Marx (unless you count Groucho). Up until 2008 an individual right to weapons was not recognized. Your "anti-activist" hero Scalia conjured it up from whole cloth. Prior to that it was only as part of a well regulated militia. Also in 2008 Scalia stated that states may place "reasonable restrictions" on ownership. So take off your ignorant Fix News glasses and see th real world. Also, I don't recall any "ism" being stated in the Declaration or the Constitution.

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MrBoB51

Mar-02-13 11:24 AM

To continue off topic, Musicel is right. In my opinion, the main reason is while a lot of us get our guidance from a bearded Jewish carpenter and the U.S.Constitution, there are many of those who get their guidance from a bearded Collectivist and his Manifesto.

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MrBoB51

Mar-02-13 11:04 AM

The First Amendment also says nothing about not taxing all non-profit and charitable institutions. According to your demand, along with Churches; Private schools, Universities, Red Cross, Org. involved in Medical or Scientific research and Environmental Groups ALL SHOULD BE TAXED. So lets hear you demand that. These are Tax Laws. The First Amendment is no more about taxes than the Second Amendment is about hunting. You might want to understand the First Amendment and the rest of the Constitution before quoting it. Read all the Federalist Papers.

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moderation

Mar-02-13 9:44 AM

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. No where in the first amendment does it mention they shall be exempt from taxes.

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MrBoB51

Mar-02-13 7:34 AM

Moderation, have you ever read the The Constitution? The Bill of Rights? Do you know there is a separation 'of' Church and state, not separation 'from' Church and state? Do you even know what that means? Obviously not. Pay their fair share...as defined by whom? You? I think not..... just another indoctrinated lemming spouting progressive BS. I don't blame you entirely, you were taught nonsense progressive opinion instead of actual American History. Otherwise you would never have come up with such an idiotic statement. How about an original thought sometime, instead of regurgitating the garbage you were taught.

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moderation

Mar-01-13 1:35 PM

Start taxing ALL church property. They are all basically criminal enterprises, and since all of them interject their opinions into politics, it's way past time for them to pay their fair share.

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Musicel

Mar-01-13 1:08 PM

It is obvious that the politicans of today are inept and self motivated. The people are really suffering because of this.

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drugsrus

Mar-01-13 11:27 AM

swizzer -yes you will, and rightfully so in this (so far)somewhat free country. You know what is best for you, inefficient as it may be. You just keep working harder to survive, don't look back, don't even consider that you may have made a few mistakes and could work smarter and accomplish more. Keep your nose to the grindstone, the pajama crowd is depending on you.

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MrBoB51

Mar-01-13 10:52 AM

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm getting ready for the Spring dog and pony show known as The School Budget. Then we'll stand in wonder at the bewildering magical moving Tax Cap.

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Annarondac

Mar-01-13 10:47 AM

The property tax for schools be overturned and put back to income earners.

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TiredOfTax

Mar-01-13 10:30 AM

Maybe when the state makes it all state property they will look to another way to get the taxation that they need. Until then I plan to hold on to any bit of MY personal money that I WORKED for for my entire life. I want to be able to protect myself and MY property from outlaws and the government if threatened. This is why the criminals and the government want us to be unarmed and defenseless. Much easier to exude your will against a weak opponent.

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rschweizer

Feb-28-13 7:26 PM

druggy, I'll run my private business the way I please so long as that doesn't constitute anything illegal. Thanks.

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drugsrus

Feb-28-13 5:43 PM

swizzer - ", a well-run business has good leaders who delegate even better." You are 100% right. BUT with all the hours you claim to put in, that is not your business. Either that or you don't trust your employees.

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rschweizer

Feb-28-13 2:28 PM

Discobulous, it's easy for the municipalities say 'no.' And Albany knows that. Albany also knows that saying 'no' is extremely difficult given the mandates THEY create.

Like I said, this looks great, but it's totally a sham by Albany to make it look like they care.

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rschweizer

Feb-28-13 12:32 PM

MrBoB51, a well-run business has good leaders who delegate even better.

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MrBoB51

Feb-28-13 11:00 AM

That's speaking as a retired business owner who finally has some time.

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MrBoB51

Feb-28-13 10:59 AM

Rs, for a guy who claims to have such a busy, successful business..you spend a lot of time here. You're wasting your time and money, not a good business model.

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rschweizer

Feb-28-13 1:25 AM

drugsrus, I would bet the farm that the vast majority of the professionals do NOT own their own business property. Doctors renting out space at Nathan Littauer? No. Lawyers downtown? No. Accountants at HR Block? No.

And the 'real estate market' has absolutely nothing to do with it, but I'll just take that as your excuse to stray off course as usual.

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Taxedtoomuch

Feb-27-13 10:22 PM

The whole system is becoming a self consuming system that will not be indefinitely sustainable in it's current state. When our local counties were booming with the leather, carpet, and garment industries our municipalities could afford to be generous with pay and benefit packages and spending. This is no longer the situation and they are left scraping for funds to pay for the generosity and spending habits of the past that the different departments have become accustomed. It is time for a change in the way of thinking at all levels of government and possibly even at the business or Wall Street levels.

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drugsrus

Feb-27-13 7:47 PM

swizzer, you are the all educated on who missed the point. Maybe with the NY real estate market what it is you might be able to make a good deal on actually investing and buy your business real estate. Hey. the "great state" of New York is advertising on CBS (at least the Philly outlet) about how business friendly NY has become.

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rschweizer

Feb-27-13 7:29 PM

drugsrus, I wasn't wrong, you simply weren' clear. When I said 'rent', I thought it was clear that we were talking business rental, so I was unclear as to why you would throw a mortgage in there.

But now I remember that little things like that need to be spelled out for you.

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drugsrus

Feb-27-13 7:12 PM

swizzer - wrong again (as usual) The business is about 30 miles from his home. He owns the business property (OK he has a mortgage well 2 -1 on his home and 1 on the business) Apples to apples- you're collecting rent rec'ts (tax deduction) He is paying a business mortgage, But instead of a pile of rec'ts he is building equity and value for the business.

Business is business - You put in long hours and are a work-a-holic. You tell everybody how hard you work but if the opportunity arises you won't take additional time off. I'll bet that your employees feel that things run smoother without your presence. You are the CEO and take only 1 week vacation??? that only proves my theory

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rschweizer

Feb-27-13 6:06 PM

drugsrus, and also, I wasn't talking about rent as in a place to live. I was talking about rent as in the lease on the business property. If your son doesn't pay a business rent because he works from home, then I was right in saying you're false in comparing my business, with all its assets, liquid and not, employees, etc., to your son's.

And if in fact he works out of his home, then he can write off some of his mortgage as a business expense, so again, apples to oranges, except he gets that plus others do not.

So once again: shut up if you don't know what you're talking about since you've proven a few times that you usually can't get those words out the right way.

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