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Decide what park will be

June 12, 2014

If a tree falls in the Adirondacks, will anyone be around to hear it? In the future, the answer may be “no....

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Annarondac

Jun-14-14 8:11 AM

Colorado is being developed in urban areas near where people ski and recreate. Supporting businesses like restaurants, condo's, hotels and shopping are likely within a comfortable distance to ski lifts. 69% of Colorado forests are national forests, with strict regulations including laws against clear cutting and development. I'm there often and I prefer stores to be within walking distance to where I stay or ski and the forests remain pristine for hiking. There certainly are no trails in Colorado that have the erosion that the more popular trails have in the High Peak region. In my opinion, trails in Marcy, Colvin, Algonquin and the North Elba area have been poorly mismanaged.

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Solarguy

Jun-13-14 12:01 PM

Colorado is quickly becoming overdeveloped. Scarecrow, I live in the park full time and I make a good portion of my income in the park. I have customers that are full timers and part timers. It's all the same to me. I can see where the zoning may be aggravating for you with your property, but you'll find a way to make it happen. There really is lots of opportunity out there. We're climbing Gray and Skylight mountains tomorrow and I'll be sure to stop at the Stewarts in Keene and buy a granola bar.

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Scarecrow57

Jun-13-14 9:02 AM

Gee SoalrGuy, you sound just like one of those part time people that come here occasionally with no concern for the lives of the people who live here. It's OK as long as you have your playground. You are probably one of those people who drives in, hikes to a mountain, eats a couple granola bars, and then leaves, never spending a dime in the area.

I have an idea, let's take the entire park, put a fence around, remove the roads, and leave it be.

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Scarecrow57

Jun-13-14 8:59 AM

ADKman - "Why do we need to develop everything?"

We call it progress. Why should we take 25% of the state resources and make them unproductive? Sadly, the people who push for this nonsense don't live here. They come in for their 1 week vacation, and go home, all while we locals support and maintain their little Playground. I have 100 acres of land, to build in this area (Mayfield) you need 11 acres. This 100 acres is virtually worthless thanks to this state and the draconian rules.

Shouldn't the state be compensating the land owners for lost revenues?

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taxtired

Jun-13-14 8:46 AM

Colorado is a very nice place and looks as nice as the Adirondacks. Some might say even better.

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gville70

Jun-12-14 10:46 PM

Don't forget the blackriver jerks ..

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Solarguy

Jun-12-14 10:13 PM

If it wasn't for the APA, the Adirondacks would look like Colorado. Perhaps there could be condos and Stewart's shops along the Northville Lake Placid trail. Maybe a Marriot on top of Mount Marcy. We could log off all those pesky trees like we did 150 years ago and build some more museums to show us what it used to look like before we developed it. I love the Adirondack Park, it's not perfect, but close enough for me.

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ADKman

Jun-12-14 3:31 PM

Why do we need to develop everything? Leave it be. Many are moving to the Adirondacks precisely because the protection it offer from development. And no, you will not be fined for logging on your own property in the Adirondack Park. It happens all the time. I just had a few acres cleared, no paperwork required, in the area I live in.

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Hilltopper

Jun-12-14 2:39 PM

Leaving the Shuttleworth Camp at Moffits boarded up and to rot since the state took ownership makes little sense. Too few regulations in the past can not be fixed by too many restrictions in the present, nor can affirmitive action in the present make whole those who were discriminated against in the past.

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Scarecrow57

Jun-12-14 1:47 PM

This is what the flat landers wanted, A park devoid of life so they can have their little playground. We in the Adirondacks have become slaves ot the environmentalist.

I ask, if these oppressive regulations are so good for us why not apply them state wide.

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TiredOfTax

Jun-12-14 1:27 PM

Years ago they thought that it was a great idea to allow land to remain forever wild. Problems arise when this happens, one of which is overgrown trees shade the ground not allowing new vegetation to grow leaving behind very dry and flammable debris... ripe for fires. Secondly the trees grow large and for the betterment of the woodlot the weaker old diseased growth should be culled. In these cases it is not better to leave it up to mother nature, either with a shovel and water beating down the flames or a saw and a truck you will be tending to the forest.

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Annarondac

Jun-12-14 1:19 PM

The Great Camp Sagamore, years ago was left to rot under the "Forever Wild" clause, but underwent restoration and now is a historical example of the innovation that went into these camps.

Currently, Great Camp Santanori was to go by the wayside, but is now being restored as another example of the craftmanship and innovation that went into these complexes. It's an easy mountain bike ride to see it.

One Camp that did not benefit from restoration was the Hudnut's Foxlair, near Backers Mills where Rudy Valentino visited. It was also the site of the Hudnut perfume factory.

Thankfully, "Forever Wild" didn't destroy all of our history. Even the word "vacation" was derived from people "vacating" New York City to all points north to Old Forge and beyond. The APA and it's blue line should be abolished.

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MrBoB51

Jun-12-14 11:31 AM

"Ultimately, it will be up to the state's residents to decide what they want the Adirondacks to be."... If only that statement was even REMOTELY true. How about this...If you remove a tree from your own Adirondack property, how many APA thugs will be 6 feet up your****with injunctions, seizures and fines? Answer: All of them. 'Forever Wild' is actually the action motto of the APA and has nothing to do with the sanctity of the Park.

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