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Be careful with contract

April 29, 2014

The situation with the town of Johnstown’s highway department may be getting worse....

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PleaseGetAClue

May-07-14 11:20 AM

TOT: "Please unlike you I chose my words and think for myself. But you keep being you OK!"

That was posted by her just before she posted WORD FOR WORD, cut and pasted directly from a highly anti union website with NO INDEPENDENT Thought at all....hilarious and totally expected

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PleaseGetAClue

May-07-14 11:17 AM

TOT: More than 44,000 home-based caregivers no longer are part of the SEIU Healthcare Michigan, according to federal reports filed by the union....." wow TOT knows how to cut and paste directly from anti union websites like the Mackinac Center? not where you go to get unbiased accurate information, but I'm not surprised she reads that trash not surprised at all

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yaddayadda

May-06-14 11:57 AM

I guess what I was getting at is that, unions may work when they work for the employee and aren't in the pocket of the owners and/or management.

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TiredOfTax

Apr-30-14 10:03 PM

More than 44,000 home-based caregivers no longer are part of the SEIU Healthcare Michigan, according to federal reports filed by the union.

The workers previously were forced to pay dues or fees to the SEIU after the union orchestrated a scheme that took money from the Medicaid checks of the people the workers were caring for in homes across the state. The "dues skim" ended in 2013, but not before the SEIU took more than $34 million from the elderly and disabled across the state.

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Hearmeout

Apr-30-14 8:16 PM

bustercasey...it is very difficult to sit down with someone who has outright stated their hatred for you and your dept., don't you think. The underhanded, sneaky dealings of certain board members is what has led to all of this. So, now a union will "sit them down" to work things out!

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TiredOfTax

Apr-30-14 5:56 PM

Please unlike you I chose my words and think for myself. But you keep being you OK!

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TiredOfTax

Apr-30-14 5:55 PM

As a union steward those choices were not mine to make. Waste is not only withing government it is within any governing body whatsoever. If you are in position to control apparently you feel the need to impose your corrupt will on others.

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PleaseGetAClue

Apr-30-14 2:26 PM

So TOT, you're telling us you were a steward of the Union and misused your members dues for dinners and similar items? I'm not surprised.

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PleaseGetAClue

Apr-30-14 1:10 PM

Yadda, please explain how a "Union" can stop a company from relocating to another country to escape paying decent wages and having to abide by regulations when MANAGEMENT of the company decides that profits outweigh everything else? Please explain how this is the fault of the Union? I'm trying hard to understand your statement. To me your blame is aimed in the wrong direction.

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yaddayadda

Apr-30-14 12:36 PM

I once worked for a company in which the employees were unionized, my union dues were taken directly from my weekly pay, never saw any benefit of being a union member, especially when the company up and moved to Mexico. Thousands of dollars paid in over the course of my employment, nothing in return.

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PleaseGetAClue

Apr-30-14 11:58 AM

TOT: "NOPE! Unions are so last century"...that's the narrow minded, completely blinded by rhetoric thinking that keeps Fulton County behind the times. I'm sure that line came directly from either Rush or Glenn Beck and YOU believe it whole heartedly.

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bustercasey

Apr-30-14 11:46 AM

This looks like an "us verses them" issue - the Highway Superintendent verses the Town Supervisor. Someone should sit them down and work this out.

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getreal

Apr-29-14 8:54 PM

TOT no we are subject to Ignorant management who have no clue what their jobs are! Whom are not Unionized. Who make triple what the lowly unionized worker makes, yet we do all the work!

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getreal

Apr-29-14 8:50 PM

It all comes down to greed...If you pay an employee well for his work he will be loyal, if you don't then you pay for what you get!

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Hearmeout

Apr-29-14 8:32 PM

TOT...I dare you to ask any county employee if they would have health insurance, decent wages or any other benefits if their benefits were left up to the Board of Supervisors. I don't think you will find any! Also, to anyone who knows the Highway Superintendent and any of the workers at the Town of Johnstown Highway Dept. you would know what a dedicated group of workers they are and that no union is going to make them any different. They simply need to protect their interests against a Town Supervisor who has publicly announced her hatred of the Town Highway Dept.

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TiredOfTax

Apr-29-14 7:07 PM

Unions cost money, they take dues and the upper echelon make a great wage! What does the dues payer get? Not much. I was a union steward at beech nut YEARS ago. We had nice dinners and stuff at some great restaurants dues were a great thing!

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TiredOfTax

Apr-29-14 7:01 PM

TOT, Can you tell us of an instance where a private employee with a contract has been treated unfairly when compared to a public employee in the same situation?

NOPE! Unions are so last century!

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Hilltopper

Apr-29-14 4:06 PM

I just passed two NYSDOT trucks parked along a state road. One guy was in front with a piece of equipment and 7 others were in back standing in a group talking and laughing. Let's hope the Town of Johnstown highway workers aren't joining that union.

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PleaseGetAClue

Apr-29-14 4:05 PM

Wasn't UPSEU the Union that the employees of our waste water treatment plant decertified from, just a few years ago because UPSEU was a company union and sold those members down the river?

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PleaseGetAClue

Apr-29-14 2:37 PM

"if you are doing good work and are a good employee, you don't need a union." At will employment is the law covering ALL workers in NYS who do not have a labor contract. The law is simple, it says "At-Will-Employment means that no term or condition of employment is guaranteed to the employee. The employer can change anything, including pay, at anytime, for any reason. Additionally either the Employer or Employee can end the working relationship at any time, for any reason, or for no reason." so even if you are a "good worker" they can get rid of you for anything at all. That's why you don't see 25 year WalMart employees outside of management. If you astart getting to make decent money there then your hours are cut or you're let go altogether. Wal Mart Management says, "Thanks for your dedication but you're making too much so we want to replace you with lower wage younger workers...."

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PleaseGetAClue

Apr-29-14 2:12 PM

Scarecrow, You are in my arena now, I negotiate and consult on labor agreements on both sides of the table, you are so far off base it sounds childish. What you have stated here is NOT EVEN CLOSE to reality. You hear the rhetoric and you believe it and repeat it. Please see my earlier post about repeating a lie enough times in hopes that others believe it

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PleaseGetAClue

Apr-29-14 2:07 PM

TOT, Can you tell us of an instance where a private employee with a contract has been treated unfairly when compared to a public employee in the same situation?

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PleaseGetAClue

Apr-29-14 2:05 PM

so Scarecrow, what is YOUR experience with unions? My guess is that you have no direct experience.

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PleaseGetAClue

Apr-29-14 2:03 PM

it's FLSA...Fair Labor Standards Act.

"Public employees are not subjected to the same pressures as in the private sector." This statement is more Pure nonsense if you are talking about Union members in the private sector. a contract is the same in the public sector as the private sector. The only difference is Triborough

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PleaseGetAClue

Apr-29-14 2:00 PM

"not my job" is insubordination under ANY contract. A good union member knows the rule, work now grieve later. Insubordination is a terminable offense. "The public employees are very well compensated for their service" ONLY because of the contract they have. I seem to sense a bit of jealousy in TOT's post. And TOT, please explain one example of an "added expense" the taxpayer suffers because of a Union Contract? and just to be clear since you obviously buy into the rhetoric 100%, there is NO contract anywhere that makes a bad worker immune from termination for just cause.

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