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April 10, 2014

In every high school’s graduating class, there is a population of students who want to join the workforce rather than go to college....

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MrBoB51

Apr-12-14 7:20 AM

We are on the same page drugs, fundamentals first, streamlined career courses next. A Biologist and a Plasma Arc Welder do not need the same Humanities courses.

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drugsrus

Apr-11-14 11:59 AM

yeah Bob, I learned to diagram sentences all those years ago too, but I can't remember the last time I needed that skill. My point is that the kiddies really need a command of the written and spoken word to excel in most any vocation

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lizzie

Apr-11-14 11:54 AM

"But whatever or wherever the talent lies, it needs to be encouraged from an age younger than it currently is if at all" And, that starts in the home, with the PARENTS.

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MrBoB51

Apr-11-14 11:23 AM

Let me put it this way; it's not that important to really know you're employing a split-infinitive in a conversation (the word 'really') but you DO have to really know how to fix the dam*n A/C or you don't get paid.

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MrBoB51

Apr-11-14 11:03 AM

You missed my point drugs. I was referring to the subtle mechanics of the English language versus, say, the practical use of a Solid-State or Ladder-Logic diagram or the mechanical principle of Refrigeration. Both are useful but both are not practical depending on your field of choice.

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drugsrus

Apr-11-14 10:22 AM

and BoB in order to "fixing the d*mn thing" you need to understand how it works, which usually involves some reading time - OK a LOT of reading time. "They" used to "sell" the vocational programs on the fallacy that "it's 80% hands on", so the kiddies got discouraged when they realized that they were still spending much of the day in a classroom. Shop time for them was more like recess, lots of clowning around and disruption

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drugsrus

Apr-11-14 10:12 AM

So "they" still need that well rounded education that was administered 50 years ago. the old 3 Rs - readin', 'ritin', and 'rithamtic. Most of today's kids can't even make change for a dollar, or count past ten with their shoes on

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drugsrus

Apr-11-14 10:07 AM

Reading and reading comprehension go a l-o-n-g way to being able to "fix stuff". Unfortunately many of those not gifted academically are also not mechanically talented either. I guess they will just have to find their niche. But whatever or wherever the talent lies, it needs to be encouraged from an age younger than it currently is if at all

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MrBoB51

Apr-11-14 6:03 AM

I see you point drugs. Which is more practical, to understand the meaning of the split infinitive 'to really understand the mechanics of A/C repair' or just fixing the d*mn thing?

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drugsrus

Apr-11-14 1:03 AM

so thay don't hafta lern how to spel or rite assaysor make sentanses ?? fergit history an sinens ?? jus turn renches an stuff?? not kwite dummed down enuff yet

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Annarondac

Apr-10-14 6:57 PM

We had that a long time ago, used to be called shop and home ec.

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adkkev

Apr-10-14 2:45 PM

MrBob: the sadder part is those who have to take 'remedial courses' AFTER they get into FMCC.

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MrBoB51

Apr-10-14 2:18 PM

Better than sitting in a classroom but not getting an education and then graduating. They won't need 'remedial courses' to get into the workplace like the others need to get into FMCC.

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mrshubbs

Apr-10-14 12:21 PM

This is a very good idea. Some of the smartest people I know didn't have the money for traditional college education

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