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Obama plays numbers game

April 7, 2014

It is not really amazing what a combination of coercion and giveaways can accomplish in a year. Obamacare has been a stunning success, President Barack Obama and others assured Americans recently....

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TiredOfTax

Apr-12-14 8:57 AM

The truly ironic part is that the people that need the insurance cannot now afford to buy it. the exaggerated number of 7.5 million is the people on medicare and the displaced insured. I have heard many stories about those that believe that they have Obamacare insurance but nobody will honor it. No doctors, hospitals or any providers at all.

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TiredOfTax

Apr-12-14 8:37 AM

The substandard plan is Obamacare, it was not thought out well, it does NOTHING to save us any money and is the single largest tax ever imposed on US taxpayers. At a time when a jobs bill would have been a help, this spending bill is the destruction of our countries health care. Democrats are being dumped from congress and next up. the white house! Remember t hat democrats OWN this healthcare bill... no republicans voted for it, that is partisan politics at its worst!

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FedUp0416

Apr-11-14 3:28 PM

GVILLE70: Do you believe the president when he says it is 7.5 million? If so, why?

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PleaseGetAClue

Apr-11-14 11:42 AM

well said G'ville.

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gville70

Apr-10-14 9:22 PM

Repubs screwed up something that could have been great and now they are complaining about it? No way... For those that claim you had crappy insurance that didn't meet the basic ACA guidelines shouldn't you be upset at your insurance company for screwing you over all this time? So blinded by hate that you can't even place blame where it should be..

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TiredOfTax

Apr-10-14 7:19 PM

With the ObamaCare enrollment deadline in the rearview for most, the IRS is preparing for the next step -- tracking and penalizing those who choose not, or cannot afford, to buy approved health insurance. For most, the penalty will not apply until early next year. Those who failed to purchase insurance by the March 31, 2014, deadline -- and are not exempt, or did not get an extension -- must inform the government on their tax forms in early 2015. It starts at $95 per person or 1 percent of family income, whichever is greater. But over the next couple years, it rises to $695 per person -- while aggressively pursuing these fines could prove politically unpopular, failing to do so could also increase deficit projections.

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TiredOfTax

Apr-09-14 1:24 PM

RINO'S do not count! Obama's numbers add up to lies deceit and bankruptcy! Nothing done in the past 6 years has helped, not a thing!

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PleaseGetAClue

Apr-09-14 1:17 PM

Finally: ....."No concerns over the constitutionality of an individual mandate were raised by Republicans, that is, until Democrats began catering the idea. Most Republicans now claim that the idea of requiring every American to buy health insurance is the worst part of the Democratic health care agenda.

While it’s certainly possible for someone to legitimately change their mind on an issue, it also seems likely that the amount of flip-flopping is due to nothing more than political posturing by both sides to gain an edge over the other." need more MrBoob?

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PleaseGetAClue

Apr-09-14 1:03 PM

continued: ......"Senator John McCain once supported the individual mandate as well, when in the early 1990s he made a speech proposing the individual mandate as a counter to the health care reform Bill Clinton was proposing, according to the Miami Herald.

And former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich worked with the Heritage Foundation on the individual mandate before changing his stance on the issue in 2011. Former Governor Mitt Romney also once supported a nationwide individual mandate, and got the idea for his Massachusetts health care reform from Newt Gingrich, but he also changed his stance on the issue during his 2012 presidential run.

Sorry for the cut and paste typo....

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PleaseGetAClue

Apr-09-14 1:02 PM

continued: ......"Senator John McCain once supported the individual mandate as well, when in the early 1990s he made a speech proposing the individual mandate as a counter to the health care reform Bill Clinton was proposing, according to the Miami Herald.

obamacare-cartoon-2-aAnd former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich worked with the Heritage Foundation on the individual mandate before changing his stance on the issue in 2011. Former Governor Mitt Romney also once supported a nationwide individual mandate, and got the idea for his Massachusetts health care reform from Newt Gingrich, but he also changed his stance on the issue during his 2012 presidential run.

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PleaseGetAClue

Apr-09-14 1:01 PM

Continued: "Former Republican Senator John Chafee formally introduced the proposal in a 1993 bill titled, “Health Equity and Access Reform Today Act of 1993,” which had 20 Republican co-sponsors and included an individual mandate and vouchers for lower income individuals.

A few Republicans who co-sponsored the 1993 Republican individual mandate bill, but more recently opposed Obama’s Affordable Care Act include: Senators Orrin Hatch and Chuck Grassley, along with former Senators Robert Bennet, Christopher Bond, and Richard Lugar.

And in 1994, another Republican bill, titled the “Consumer Choice Health Security Act of 1994,” initially included an individual mandate.

Republicans who co-sponsored the 1994 bill, but now oppose the Affordable Care Act include: Senators Dan Coats, Charles Grassley, Orrin Hatch, and former Senators Robert Bennett, Judd Gregg, Kay Bailey Hutchison, and Richard Lugar.

Senator John McCain once supported the individual mandate as well, when in the ear

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PleaseGetAClue

Apr-09-14 12:55 PM

Continued: "....The proposal was backed by a large number of Republican politicians and was strikingly similar to the Affordable Care Act signed by Obama in 2010, which was admittedly influenced by Heritage’s proposal.

Former Republican Presidential Candidate Jon Huntsman noted this fact on NBC’s Meet the Press, Sunday."

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PleaseGetAClue

Apr-09-14 12:52 PM

MrBoob: "With the Republican push to repeal the Affordable Care act due largely to their claims of the unconstitutionality of the individual mandate, it seems appropriate to note the history surrounding the controversial issue. The substantial amount of contrarianism that has occurred in the past two decades is nothing short of astounding.

The fact that the individual mandate has deep Republican roots cannot be denied. The idea of an individual mandate replacing the single-payer health care system was proposed in 1989 by the conservative Heritage Foundation and was published in a paper titled, “A National Health System for America.”

In the paper, the Heritage Foundation’s director of domestic policy strategies, Stuart M. Butler, proposed that “every resident of the U.S. must, by law, be enrolled in an adequate health care plan to cover major health care costs.”

The proposal was backed by a large number of Republican politicians and was strikingly similar to the Affordable Ca

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PleaseGetAClue

Apr-09-14 12:45 PM

TOT I can do the same:

Question #5 – Which of the following best describes your thoughts on the Affordable Care Act (ObamaCare)?

Of the 18 to 24 demographic (901 responses)

Approve: 284 (31.52%)

Disapprove: 248 (27.52%)

Indifferent: 116 (12.87%)

Unsure: 251 (27.85%)

Of the 25 to 34 demographic (1110 responses)

Approve: 341 (30.72%)

Disapprove: 351 (31.62%)

Indifferent: 103 (9.27%)

Unsure: 312 (28.10%)

And finally Headlines from Huffington Post: More Americans oppose Obamacare than oppose the ACA. Ha Ha, Pretty much your kind of people surveyed I guess.

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MrBoB51

Apr-09-14 11:29 AM

I'll start with the obvious BF1; Tort Reform and ability to purchase Med. Ins. across State lines. Feel free to add more. This current program is like an uncurable, creeping form of Cancer infecting Society, so what if during the treatment process healthy tissue gets destroyed for the greater good, lets just keep giving treatment right up to the end.

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MrBoB51

Apr-09-14 11:12 AM

Adkman, a Republican idea???? Silly lib/progressive trying to change history. Ok, name 1 Republican in Congress who proposed and voted for this mess. Oops, there are NONE. How inconvenient for your narrative. By the way, who do you expect to pay for 'full socialized medicine'? Lib/progressives seem to think this mess only hurts Republicans and Conservatives. Guess the joke's on YOU. Do you really think, strike that, you don't think, so instead stop insisting people who you disagree with 'shut up', it gets you nowhere and makes you look small.

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BlackFrancis1

Apr-09-14 11:09 AM

When you say "free market" solution you mean have the insurers compete for business as any other business does - similar to the way we buy car insurance? That sounds like common sense now why would anyone say that wouldn't work? Too unwieldy? Too many lobbyists?

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MrBoB51

Apr-09-14 10:56 AM

BF1, all the solutions out there involve Free Market solutions, it stand to reason that's why lib/progressives think there is no solutions.

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Pards13

Apr-09-14 9:36 AM

Well mine was cancelled and the only one I could afford was inferior. I guess the answer is any fool can buy or have a plan given to them. However that does not automatically put them in a better situation. Because of this force feeding I can tell you I AM NOT IN A BETTER PLAN AND MY FAMILY IS NOW AT RISK!! Sorry if I sound mad but I am.

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ataxpayer

Apr-09-14 8:18 AM

ADKman - prior to this mess, my health insurance covered all my medical needs. Now my premium has increased, my deductible has increased, my copay has increased, my doctor had to find an alternative med for me because my insurance will no longer cover the one that was successfully working for me for years, and I had to change one of my doctors...So I'm paying more, my successful medical regime was altered, and I was forced to start fresh with another doctor...yup, working just fine.

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ADKman

Apr-09-14 5:30 AM

So why are premiums going up? Because your insurance policy actually has to cover something? LOL!

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TiredOfTax

Apr-08-14 9:33 PM

Americans have recently been hit with some of the largest premium increases in years, according to a Morgan Stanley survey of insurance brokers Morgan Stanley’s results echo what consumers are already seeing: the Affordable Care Act’s intensive regulation of the insurance market is driving health care premiums up strikingly.

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TiredOfTax

Apr-08-14 9:29 PM

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 58% of Likely U.S. Voters have at least a somewhat unfavorable opinion of the health care law, with 43% who view it Very Unfavorably. Just 39% have a favorable view of the law, including 16% with a Very Favorable one.

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ataxpayer

Apr-08-14 8:31 PM

BF1 "give the new system longer than a few months" Just like everyone said to give Obama a chance because he was taking office at a "difficult" time...he had a chance his first term, why we gave him another chance is beyond me. Americans are not financially stable enough to sit around and take anymore chances this president dishes out. Hope and Change went out the window. He made many promises and did not deliver.

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ADKman

Apr-08-14 7:56 PM

Wait. You guys all know that this was a Republican idea, right? The Democrats wanted full socialized medicine.

As for this stupid editorial, 7 million people signed up for insurance out of the 50 million that didn't have it. Medicaid expansion was NOT mandatory and half of the states (red states) would not comply, so if you earn too much to qualify for Medicaid but not enough for the ACA, you continue to have no insurance.

Scarecrow - give me the name of ONE person who had their insurance cancelled and now cannot buy an insurance policy. Just one name. Six million my ass.

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