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City man: County gov’t. anti-union

February 18, 2014

JOHNSTOWN — A public speaker accused Fulton County government of being anti-union at the Board of Supervisors meeting last week at the County Office Building. John Kane of 161 W....

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Pards13

Feb-18-14 12:03 PM

Go get'em John. Employers bad, unions good. What's wrong with speaking with employers when just about everyone says Fulton County needs more jobs. More jobs higher wages.

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mrshubbs

Feb-18-14 12:38 PM

Perhaps the moral is to be a capitalist instead of a worker since there's obviously more money in it. He's right about the chamber tho. It's just a good ole boy/girl support group.

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grant18

Feb-18-14 12:38 PM

I think Pards13 avoided answering John's point which was "less unions, lower wages." Perhaps that's because John's point is much better proven than his.

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Pards13

Feb-18-14 1:32 PM

Chamber of Commerce always was for business. As far as John's point, less unions lower wages I did not avoid it. My point is more unions less jobs.

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GKH1946

Feb-18-14 3:28 PM

I stopped listening to John Kane and John Sirtoli 20 years ago. Nonsense.

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GKH1946

Feb-18-14 3:38 PM

Correction 40 years ago!

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FedUp0416

Feb-18-14 3:45 PM

And the county being anti-union is bad why? - I liked the comment by a VW worker after they rejected the UAW unionization scam. He said he preferred to work for his pay rather than negotiate for it. Enough Said!

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Pards13

Feb-18-14 3:55 PM

He also said if the union was in he would earn $3 less and the company would pay more.

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NottaPinko

Feb-18-14 9:54 PM

John Kane is a genuine walking talking rectum. Why would even consider publishing anything he spews?

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Stackrat

Feb-19-14 7:55 AM

Oh those poor unions and their members! Tell me again why a new car costs 25k, or why I have to pay a firefighter that primarily sits around, more than 40k a year! Maybe the Postal service can give us some insight as to the many benifits to unionized labor? NOT! Unions*****the life out of employers and make employees lazy, which I guess is synonymous with Civil Service.

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Stackrat

Feb-19-14 7:58 AM

Really? Hey LH... how am I supposed to use a straw if I cant use the word ? Good Grief!

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drugsrus

Feb-19-14 10:55 AM

Stackrat, that's right - keep blaming the unions for everything when the top execs pay went from 30X what the low man made and everybody was happy to 4000+X and they want more. And a good portion of the higher cost of a new car is due to added GOVERNMENT regulations and all the required safety equipment. Why do we need 73 air bags ????

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TiredOfTax

Feb-19-14 11:24 AM

Hey you want to make what a business owner makes, start a business. You can pay your workers what you want, place huge prices on your product any amount you want and sell it to make huge profits... then stop back and tell us just how easy the government and Unions made making any money easy for you! Unions and government are businesses biggest hurdles!

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drugsrus

Feb-19-14 11:54 AM

TOT, government much more than unions. This country has lost its moral compass. Greed has taken over, we have lost the sense of having enough. The Unions, just like the companies at the top level are gouging the members and workers. More company execs need to do an "Undercover Boss" without the TV cameras.

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shellback

Feb-19-14 5:09 PM

I vote for John Kane

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MrBoB51

Feb-19-14 5:25 PM

"Greed has taken over, we have lost the sense of having enough" Yeah drugs, that was no slip of the tongue. That's exactly what progressives believe. They also believe they are the only ones who should decide what is 'enough' and who has it when the truth is, it's none of yours or anybody elses effing business who has earned what. All of Kanes bluster aside, thankfully, Union membership is rapidly declining because the Union and membership is simply not worth what they think they are.

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Stackrat

Feb-19-14 5:40 PM

I did not blame the Unions for everything, just a large percentage of the inflated economy. Tell me again why we need uneducated factory workers making in excess of 60k,with a pension and lifetime medical. I do not wonder why we make our cars in Mexico or why a stamp costs a half a buck.

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drugsrus

Feb-19-14 8:13 PM

Stackrat, so the overpaid executives earn their money over lunch ??? and the guys putting the product out the door, doing the physical work don't deserve a livable wage ??? You give a company the best years of your life and then what ? "Your done old man, tootles" ???

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drugsrus

Feb-19-14 8:38 PM

BoB, I think you missed the point. It's not political in any way. It was wrong on lots of levels for the NLRB to stop Boeing's intended move from the upper west to the deep south "to get away from the high union wages" -- They made a half BILLION dollars the year before and orders were piling up, so it wasn't a case of survival. No thought of the rest of the people who live in the area and depend on Boeing employees for their livelihood. We used to have good corporate citizens, there are very few left. . The only time I agreed with the current occupant of our White House was when he asked the Goldman-Sachs crooks "At what point have you made enough"

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drugsrus

Feb-19-14 8:48 PM

continued -- It's really part of citizenship - something not taught in schools anymore. A company like Boeing, after all the years there, and all the people who depend on Boeing employees, has developed a responsibility to the economy of the area. BUT "our" executives need more $$$ so we have to cut those lowlifes that put the planes out the door -- they make too much - why pay them $20/hr. when we can pay them $10 -- take it or leave it

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MrBoB51

Feb-20-14 7:27 AM

There is a concept that dictates you are paid what you are worth, not what you THINK you're worth, not what the Govt. thinks your worth but what the market thinks your worth. Not political? That' a laugh. Don't like it? Spend as much time elevating yourself instead of trying to bring others down. The 'overpaid' Executive can go on the Mfg. floor, use a skrew-gun or pack a box but the Floor worker cannot suddenly go Executive and run the Company. Not without proven skills, abilities and judgement required for the job. The keyword being 'proven'. The bottom line is, regardless what you think, NOBODY owes you anything. You owe it to yourself to be as successful as YOU can be. Now, I fully realize there has been an epiphany of sorts that allows people to believe that lazy is the new busy and successful people do not deserve what they have earned and the fruits of that success has to be given to people who are more 'deserving'. Socialism. Drugs, you appear to be in that camp.

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MrBoB51

Feb-20-14 7:35 AM

One final thought to ponder...I put up my own money, went into business to MAKE money to provide an 'economic boom' to ME. If that's selfish, ask yourself why YOU work.

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TiredOfTax

Feb-20-14 8:10 AM

One for all and all for one works only in the movies, government and life are very unfair!

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PleaseGetAClue

Feb-20-14 1:25 PM

Hey Stackrat, please point out where "....uneducated factory workers making in excess of 60k,with a pension and lifetime medical" are...there are NO pensions in the private sector anymore. You can always be counted on to make your argument with false statements. where is this factory you used as your example?

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PleaseGetAClue

Feb-20-14 1:28 PM

Factory workers are private sector...no one in the private sector gets healthcare for life. Your just making stuff up..... even IF they have healthcare WHILE THEY WORK, the worker pays the majority of that. BUT all state and federal politicians do get FREE healthcare for life? and to you Stackrat, that's acceptable?

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