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Cameras to catch drivers illegally passing buses

February 15, 2014

GLOVERSVILLE — The Hamilton-Fulton-Montgomery Regional Transportation Department will install cameras on the outside of school buses this summer to record images of drivers who illegally pass when......

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MrBoB51

Feb-17-14 5:23 AM

How much will it cost the Property Tax payer when School Districts are forced into litigation in Traffic Court? Their cameras, their Bus's, their problem and no police involved at the onset. However, if all revenue from legal, police-generated tickets for passing a School Bus were to go to the School District, I would be for that.

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MrBoB51

Feb-17-14 5:10 AM

Bill, those tickets are sent in the mail, you're guilty and fined. If you plead not guilty, your accuser does not show up in court and you are STILL guilty and fined, that does not happen when the Police give you a ticket. Your accuser, the Police shows up in court to comply with your Constitutional Right to confront your accuser, if not, case dismissed.

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TiredOfTax

Feb-16-14 7:27 PM

Just think about the busload of students that are loaded with cell phones computers ipods tablets and digital cameras... the bus driver wouldn't even have to look! Lets move on to implanting RFD chips and just get it over with, DNA samples mandatory and instant punishments!

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lizzie

Feb-16-14 12:27 PM

Knickman does have a point. Try going down West St., around pickup time. I've been behind the bus when it stops at Dubois, and the parents waiting often chat with either the driver, the bus aide, or both, to the tune of 2/3 minutes. Not saying it happens every day, but it's happened to me 3 times. Same with drop off at houses near Frank's West End. Bus stops, no one is out to help the kids cross/collect the kids, and on occasion, it's been 5 minutes, with traffic backed up and people stuck in Frank's parking lot.

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BillLair

Feb-16-14 9:38 AM

Those operating school busses have enough responsibility already and should not be tasked with recording and photographing vehicles passing them when they are stopped to pick-up or discharge school children. The cameras are a good idea and anyone ticketed should pay a heavy fine if found guilty.

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MrBoB51

Feb-16-14 8:55 AM

This topic is interesting because of an unintended problem. Across America Courts are throwing out auto-generated tickets because the 'violator' is denied the right to confront their accuser, a camera. Something as basic as that is causing States to implement Laws against using traffic cams et al. They are untrustworthy due to the Human element. After reading numerous articles on the subject the one that stands out is the story about one Traffic Cam Vendor sabotaging a competitors System after they lost a lucrative Contract in a large City.

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TiredOfTax

Feb-15-14 10:23 PM

I am in favor of the bus drivers reporting the violators. They can even take a picture as evidence if they want. I do oppose surveillance and automated tickets. We are humans making human mistakes and should be confronted by the same!

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Knickman

Feb-15-14 5:13 PM

There is a state required sign in front of every school bus with a listing of school bus regulations. The first item on the list is "Be ready when the bus arrives".

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Knickman

Feb-15-14 5:08 PM

DRUGS I almost always make it on time. But if you get 2 or more that do the same thing on the same day, it might be close. Incidently, the bus driver that does the route near my home is the best. She gets over even for 1 car be her as soon as possible. My route to work is 26 miles and involves 3 school districts. These children that are not ready for the bus need to learn that they should not be holding up others.

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Knickman

Feb-15-14 5:00 PM

GRANT18 your comment is way off base. I am not weighing the safety vs getting to work on time. This week, I came up behind a bus that stopped and the door was open and lights were flashing for 2 minutes before the children exited the house. They then took their sweet time walking to the road, a distance of about 125 feet. So by the time the bus stopped, the children appeared, walked to the bus and got sat down on the bus and the driver closed the door to stop the flashing lights, 4 minutes had passed. AND I see this some place along my route to work sometimes 3 days a week. The driver should be required to report this to the transportation supervisor who in turn notifies administration. If the same children continue to do this, the parents should be called in for a conference. I am sure if they have to miss work for this, the problem would cease.

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thinktank

Feb-15-14 4:52 PM

hey knickman the next time your running late because of the bus driving slow waiting for kids that aren't ready do what i do. if i'm going to be late cause of them o.k. game on. get in front of the bus in a safe manner then drive 15 mph slower than them and maybe if there running late to make it back to the bus garage to watch murder she wrote or play cards maybe they'll get the hint. do this for a week or two and see if they like it.i'd do it on my days off also. ha,ha.

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drugsrus

Feb-15-14 3:51 PM

Knickman, you and lots of others could leave for work a few minutes earlier. It is really not a bad thing to show up at work a few minutes before your scheduled start.

As to the waiting for the ankle biters to come out, they should have a 30second time limit before the house door opens - IF the kid is not ready and waiting to go - the bus shouldn't wait for them to get their coat, hat and mittens on.

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lizzie

Feb-15-14 1:13 PM

How about cameras that record those buses clearly going over the speed limit? That's also a problem.....

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mrshubbs

Feb-15-14 12:24 PM

Who wants to get to work on time anyway?

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grant18

Feb-15-14 11:01 AM

It's incredible to me that Knickman could weigh the importance of injuries to or even the death of a child with his getting to work two minutes late! I ask him to please read his comments again & realize how wrong he is! What if were his child laying on the road?

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mrshubbs

Feb-15-14 10:42 AM

Can't hurt.

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ktjrws

Feb-15-14 10:02 AM

Not a big fan of the big brother eyes are on you. But if 35 kids were hit last year by drivers passing bus letting kids off. Then this is needed to put bad drivers on alert.

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Gofigure

Feb-15-14 9:52 AM

I'm going to put a camera in my car so I can catch a school bus passing me.

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MrBoB51

Feb-15-14 8:15 AM

Big Brother is watching you.

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Knickman

Feb-15-14 7:09 AM

First of all, I find it hard to believe the claim that people are unaware of the law. It gets a lot of publicity. If a highway has multiple lanes in each direction, it is possible to have high profile vehicles along side of you that would block your view of the other direction if you were in the right hand lane. I for one don't believe children should be allowed to cross highways with multiple lanes in each direction since they probably have higher volume of traffic, they should be let out on their homes side of the road only. Also, disciplinary action should be taken against students who are constantly no ready for the bus. Numerous times I have waited for a bus with lights flashing only to see the students come out the door 2 minutes later and take their sweet time getting to the bus. All of this while people are trying to get to work on time. Bus drivers can also help by pulling over and let the traffic behind them go by. Some do, some don't care if they build up 25 cars behind the

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tiger69bikes

Feb-15-14 6:49 AM

Very Happy to read this!! Love the Fine and Points! I thought ours was high, but this is better!! Ours is only $265.00 And it still happens all the time! Right in front of my house, too. Only difference is, this article says, you even have to stop on a DIVIDED highway. We don't have to in Fl., unless there's a raised median there. I hope they catch a lot of them!!

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