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Firefighters, police officers top city earners

January 23, 2014

GLOVERSVILLE — Firefighters and police officers were among the city’s highest-paid public employees last yea....

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merchant

Jan-25-14 6:52 PM

I belonged to CSEA, I am not saying usings are bad but I will say union employees are greedy. When I worked for the city of G'ville 13 yrs ago, I recieved 5 weeks vacation, 15 sick days, 3 personal days, 3 bereavement days, a clothing alotment twice a year, longevity pay, health insurance not counting the unwritten benefits I couldnt believe this union keeps demanding more. On another note, I hope mr rising star gets his wish to limit the minimum staffing to 5 bodies and on their way to a fire at his house a couple get hurt or delayed leaving 3 to save his house and his sorry you know what

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MrBoB51

Jan-25-14 10:55 AM

No clue, not from what I've read, from what I see and have seen and lived. That's a big difference my friend. I spent over 40 years cleaning up 'Manufacturing messes' in Union and non-Union facilities all over the Northeast and what has evolved is Unions, in short, controlling the flow and output with the workers stuck in 'follow the union rules or no job for you' mode. Is this situation any different?

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PeytonPlace

Jan-25-14 9:38 AM

One of the reasons the taxes are so high in Gloversville & people continue to move out. How sad.

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racingman

Jan-24-14 2:27 PM

I think people are unfairly going after the fire department. Look at the salaries of some of our great police force. How can they be on the force when I doubt any of them good pass a pt test like the NYS Troopers are required. Instead of sucking up the ot at the taxpayers expense maybe actually get out of their car and do their job and getting out the car to go sit in Stewarts doesn't count. It appears that the fireman actually do their job.

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TiredOfTax

Jan-24-14 2:01 PM

I too belonged to the AFLCIO, in fact I was a union rep in my department. That does not mean that I accept their usefulness any longer. Government intervention on behalf of workers has made the unions, unnecessary. What they strive for now is staying alive in the union business and that is all that they are good at!

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TiredOfTax

Jan-24-14 1:57 PM

Bill, if I was informed when I was young about this racket, I would have excitedly taken that test. However if I could retire after 20 years I would have 2 retirement checks in the bank and would be closing in on a third... that is what I call a RACKET! Great work if you can get it!

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PAMOJA

Jan-24-14 12:31 PM

I have skill and ability and belong to a Union. I did not for many years but I am glad that I do now. Private sector jobs*****when you have a family to raise, need insurance and want some retirement benefits. I waited a long time. So, get some skills, take a test and you too can be in a Union.

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useyourbrain

Jan-24-14 11:49 AM

Think of the dangers they face everyday!! What if the recliner tips over.....or the cable goes out.... What if the internet was down and video games weren't available....what if they were required to stay awake during daytime hours and not allowed to sleep because their other jobs overtaxed them... Get a grip people! They are blessed to have fallen into a cake job. Don't condemn them...they just happened to know the right people. That's the way the world works--not just Gville or Fulton County!

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PleaseGetAClue

Jan-24-14 11:10 AM

Wasn't attacking you Bob, I was trying to understand where your hatred of Unions stems from. Now based on your answer I see It was Obviously not a negative personal experience you had so I can only surmise that it comes mostly from what you read today and what you CHOOSE to believe from that. OK, now I understand.

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Outlast77

Jan-24-14 9:02 AM

The salaries don't bother me, but the buybacks do. Shouldn't happen. Use it or lose it like in many private sector jobs. Minimum staffing should not be collectively bargained for. It should be decided by the people who run the city and any mandated regulations. Over time, adjustments would be made to lower the overtime costs and a balance could be found. As far as the Mayors salary, people will think he is overpaid if they don't like him and not whine if they do. I believe we should make it a full time position, raise the compensation considerably and attract better candidates. Would anyone seriously hire someone to run a multi-million dollar company on a part time basis and pay them less than what an assistant manager for Walmart makes...We do. Sometimes you do get what you pay for!

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MrBoB51

Jan-24-14 8:03 AM

Now clue, I'd like to answer your other question 'have you ever been a member of a union'? Yes, the IUE in the early 70's. That being said, don't make the mistake of thinking if someone has never been in a union they have no reason to comment on unions because I will then demand anyone who does not own a gun better not comment on gun topics.

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MrBoB51

Jan-24-14 7:54 AM

Clue, the easy answer is unions have devolved into catering to the lowest common denominator. A contract and protection, instead of skill and ability have become the motivating factor for union membership. This is, of course, my opinion based on a lifetime of business experience and sweat in the Private sector. Anyhow, you, or anyone else, can attack my stance on any topic and I will never be offended, I enjoy defending my position.

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getreal

Jan-24-14 7:19 AM

Those salaries are not high...Does anybody look outside this County because people outside this County are making a lot more than what they are making.

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getreal

Jan-24-14 7:18 AM

Those salaries are not high...Does anybody look outside this County because people outside this County are making a lot more than what they are making.

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1stwardcitizen

Jan-23-14 8:19 PM

Be the Mayor of Gloversville and get unlimited time off. Hour worked for hour worked, he is the highest paid employee in the City.

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BillLair

Jan-23-14 7:49 PM

Take the test, TOT. Enjoy the perks.

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TiredOfTax

Jan-23-14 6:55 PM

I believe that the position of fireman has a LOT of free time. Yes their job can have its dangers, it is what a fire is all about. But that free time and the days between work days lets them enjoy a lot of off time. There are perks to this job that is not only in pay!

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Gofigure

Jan-23-14 6:07 PM

I think everyone should receive the exact same annual salary all over the world no matter what they do. There are jobs that are more dangerous than other jobs but there are no people who are more important than other people.

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JoePhillip

Jan-23-14 4:50 PM

I'm with you, Clue. While I'm also in a non-dangerous profession, the fact that I make within 30k of these people/heroes is embarrassing. Putting your life on the line is worth more than what they make. And to talk as if retiring after 20 or 25 years of that grueling (physically AND mentally) work as a cakewalk is an insult. Walk a mile.........

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PleaseGetAClue

Jan-23-14 3:19 PM

to put this in better context by way of comparison...what does our mayor make for his part-time work on his part-time gig?

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PleaseGetAClue

Jan-23-14 3:15 PM

Before you think I'm attacking your stance MrBob, be aware I agreed with your original post

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PleaseGetAClue

Jan-23-14 3:13 PM

MRBOB...on a serious note, if you don't mind me asking, what drives your self proclaimed "distaste of Unions?" Have you ever been a member of a union? is it the fact that they help working people do just a little bit better? is it the fact that they helped end child labor? cut the workweek? enforce safety standards? what is it that pushes your button? or is simply the fact that you believe everything you read from the right? I certainly don't believe everything I read from the left....I investigate on my own when I have questions.

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PleaseGetAClue

Jan-23-14 3:07 PM

"We all know how important these jobs are and the Risks that are involved, but to me these Salaries do not seem conducive to the area where most of the Fulton County work-force earn minimum wage or a little higher, is it me or do other taxpayers feel this same way?"....No I don't feel the same way. Lets bring in another WalMart then complain about low wages....yeah that's the ticket

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PleaseGetAClue

Jan-23-14 3:05 PM

I agree with Adhiker. These jobs are dangerous and deserve to be well paid. I work in what can be considered a "non-dangerous" job (although I am upper management) and I live in Fulton county and I make more than everyone listed here....I also question why all articles are not open for comment? they know articles like this will draw out the usual naysayers...I also would NEVER subscribe to this rag

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PleaseGetAClue

Jan-23-14 3:01 PM

Chiefs are not "In the union"

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