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Pipeline study going too long

January 22, 2014

A U.S. decision on whether a pipeline to bring oil from Canada to this country will not be rushed, Secretary of State John Kerry told Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird last week....

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Hilltopper

Jan-26-14 5:53 PM

Yeah, like you do they probably cheered when flour, seeds, feed for their livestock, whisky and tea prices rose, especially the merchant making a killing. Were they all thinking of their portfolios and global and Comparative Economics like you, or were they trying to scratch an existance out of the earth by their own blood and sweat?

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MrBoB51

Jan-26-14 9:32 AM

Yeah Hill, those guys who fought to form a new Country and wrote the greatest document of Freedom in the history of man were pretty laid back, peaceful, and non-confrontational. Nah, no arrogance there. However, they also had a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent and the result is AMERICA. The battle continues.

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Hilltopper

Jan-25-14 10:56 AM

Here's an abbreviation I do know, B.S., and it fits the line of crap you spew. Get off your high horse before you fall off. What made and still makes us a great nation is the Americans' heart, not arrogance. Majority rule is the cornerstone that you ignore.

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MrBoB51

Jan-25-14 10:06 AM

WH is an abbreviation for White House. You seem to know what a 'wasp' is, or do you? I was not a product of Public Education and I will not dumb-down so you or anyone else can understand me. All those assumptions you made are YOUR interpretation of events, not mine. You can give me a thousand reasons 'not' to do Keystone or any other activity that promotes and encourages the American way of life while I can give you three words in favor of 'doing' so: "We The People" and all the detail and meaning behind those words. If my love for America and the desire to succeed offends you, so be it.

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Pards13

Jan-24-14 4:53 PM

Actually I am very comfortable with that label. As far as a life I have one that I like. You seem to be very comfortable throwing around racist labels.

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Hilltopper

Jan-24-14 4:00 PM

What part offends you, being white, anglo-saxon, or protestant? Get a life.

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Pards13

Jan-24-14 1:45 PM

As I am a wasp I am offended, but I guess its alright to call white, Anglo-Saxon Protestant males names.

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Hilltopper

Jan-24-14 12:46 PM

On that note excuse me while I go outside to get some firewood. I can't see paying $3.79 for oil and Nat Grid won't run a line to bring NG up my street. Export more, drill baby, drill!

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Hilltopper

Jan-24-14 12:40 PM

BoB "We have not only Canadian oil" How does Canadian oil contribute to our energy self sufficiency? To what advantage is self sufficiency if we Americans are paying more for gasoline and all petroleum products now than when OPEC controlled the market? Further, "The Economically ignorant 'prophet' in the WH is whats bad". I have no idea what the WH is, nor what you mean. I thought all profit, if self-serving, was good, excluding the Saudis or any other non WASPs, right?

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adkkev

Jan-24-14 9:16 AM

MrBob: "America sets the rules"?? Corporate America or Government America? I'm unclear what you meant by your statement. My impression of "Energy Independence" was for the country to be reliant upon itself for its energy, not outside sources. Perhaps I'm wrong. I'm sure you'll tell me. :)

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MrBoB51

Jan-24-14 8:24 AM

Hill, are you saying that because sometimes YOU can't follow MY logic therefore I don't know what I'm talking about and that makes ME extreme??!!! Although it's arrogantly self-serving, after a remark like that perhaps you're right, I may 'be a heck of a lot smarter' that you.

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MrBoB51

Jan-24-14 8:14 AM

That's right adkkev, and America sets the 'rules'. What's YOUR definition of Energy Independence? That answer might help clear up some confusion.

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adkkev

Jan-23-14 2:59 PM

MrBob: I still don't see how this promotes energy independence for the United States. If global demand for a commodity dictates a higher price for a product, and potentially higher profit, then a company sells that commodity on the global market rather than the domestic market.

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Hilltopper

Jan-23-14 2:57 PM

What is the advantage to the ordinary American, 99.5% of the population? Instead of "Drill baby, drill"' Palin should have been honest and said, "Put a tiger in your tank." When the Saudis were price gouging us gasoline was a half a buck a gallon at the pumps in the OPEC countries. That same advantage for domestic consumers is not realized in the US. And BoB, you must be a heck of a lot smarter than I am because half the time I have no idea what the H you are talking about, which leads me to believe that you have no idea what you are talking about either. Maybe Andy was right about extremists.

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MrBoB51

Jan-23-14 1:21 PM

I'm looking to what is called a Comparative Advantage adkkev, consider looking at an old problem at new yet economically principled way.

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laker88

Jan-23-14 12:43 PM

12 leaks in 11 months. Its the Repub governors in the West/No. West states who have been opposed to it..

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adkkev

Jan-23-14 12:06 PM

Nothing wrong with profits MrBob!! But if you were running the energy companies, and there's more profit to be made by selling the oil/gas outside of the United States, wouldn't you do so? There's nothing to keep that domestic oil/gas here in the States, it'll go wherever the energy companies make the most $$. Since profit is the driving factor (Free Market), this doesn't really promote domestic energy independence does it?

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MrBoB51

Jan-23-14 9:26 AM

Hmmm, 'profit' is bad? How so? The Economically ignorant 'prophet' in the WH is whats bad. Maybe that's what adkman meant.

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FedUp0416

Jan-23-14 8:15 AM

ADKman: Those vile corporate profits! They should be outlawed. I think corporations should operate with no profit too. Any extra money they get should go to the government to spend. The governement is who knows what is best. They run effciently, distribute lots and lots of money to the lazy and irresponsible class and can even deliver mail and make the trains run. The government makes decisions quickly and in a fair and even manner. I say we should just give all our money to them and let them redistribute it as they see best. Takes alot of pressue off all of us that are trying to make ends meet. I will just ask Paul Tonko for an allowance.

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Patriot1

Jan-23-14 7:23 AM

Over the next number of years, the world economy will be growing rapidly. During that time, the development/production of various energy supplies (oil, natural gas, nuclear) will depend upon the economic feasibility of development. That is a reality in a world run by economics whether it is Russia, China the USA, or any other country. During this transitionary period, as in any other time, we must balance our own needs with the political realities in other parts of the world. Nothing changes except the political acumen of our "leaders" who make these decisions. If we are not happy with their decisions which affect both our economy and our safety, we MUST vote to make significant changes - if we do not, we are shamefully stupid - our very well-being as a country depends on it.

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ADKman

Jan-23-14 2:37 AM

"If the pipeline is not built, Canada will sell its oil to China".

So what? The Keystone oil will NOT stay in the US. It will be sold to China anyway. The Keystone Pipeline is all about corporate profits, not about the US being energy independent.

What an ignorant editorial.

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TiredOfTax

Jan-22-14 7:56 PM

Obama only has to "allow" the connection across the border. The rest does not need his permission at all. He can say anything that he wants, most of it as we all know is fake and deceitful as it always is. Pinocchio has self-defined his presidency so nicely for us all.

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MrBoB51

Jan-22-14 6:55 PM

No hill, and I wont take the bait however nicely it's offered. I'm a bit surprised though, you're not one to cite extremes. We have not only Canadian oil but a helluva lot of Texas and ND oil and enough NG to keep us all warm, fuzzy and Industrious for some time. Humans are carbon engines who rely on carbon based fuels to grease and run the Worlds Economic Engine, WE just have to start thinking about this whole supply/distribution network in a new way without the old preconceptions diverting our attention from a new model that America gets to build and the World follows.

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Hilltopper

Jan-22-14 2:58 PM

That being said, Obama should facilitate the pipeline construction. That way exports to meet foreign demand for oil can keep the price at the pump high for Joe Doak on the street in USA, right BoB?

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Hilltopper

Jan-22-14 2:49 PM

Oct 15 (Reuters) - The United States has overtaken Saudi Arabia to become the world's biggest oil producer as the jump in output from shale plays has led to the second biggest oil boom in history, according to leading U.S. energy consultancy PIRA. U.S. output, which includes natural gas liquids and biofuels, has swelled 3.2 million barrels per day (bpd) since 2009, the fastest expansion in production over a four-year period since a surge in Saudi Arabia's output from 1970-1974, PIRA said in a release on Tuesday."(The U.S.) growth rate is greater than the sum of the growth of the next nine fastest growing countries combined and has covered most of the world's net demand growth over the past two years," PIRA Energy Group wrote. "The U.S. position as the largest oil supplier in the world looks to be secure for many years," it added.

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