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Weapons bans not the answer

December 30, 2013

A small unit of the Federal Bureau of Investigation may be paving the way for state governments in search of a system that could help prevent mass shootings and violence, not through weapons bans,......

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Patriot1

Dec-30-13 1:39 PM

The Behavioral Threat Assessment Center seems to be a good place to begin. This concept can be extended to, and implemented, small communities. It revolves responsible citizens reporting erratic behavior and ideosyncrasies to responsible local law-enforcement officials and subsequently relying upon the considered judgment of these officials to follow up on the reports which they deem necessary to do so. This places a premium on both judgment and perspicacity of that official (or official body)that follow-up on a report is needed. An old saying invariably holds true in life - "when in doubt, trust your gut". You will rarely be wrong, but better to br wrong than to be silent and not avert a potential tragedy.

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TiredOfTax

Dec-30-13 1:46 PM

The only problem here is they cannot trust their gut. In true liberal fashion the law has to be spelled out and the police cannot simply use their head. Even if they are totally right they would be dismissed from duty. On the bright side, at least they are looking at the real problem and not the legal gun owners!

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BlackFrancis1

Dec-30-13 2:55 PM

When is this country going to wise up and finally ban private gun ownership once and for all? This death grip on a concept that originated over 300 years ago, at a time when no reliable local and federal policing agencies existed, is costing men, women, and children their lives.

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revoltnow

Dec-30-13 3:49 PM

taking guns away just means there "WILL" be murders of other methods. yes.. i totaly agree not everybody should have one. just look at dick chaney. but why should i be punished.. i'm no criminal. and me and my guns are no threat to ANY honest person. nor are they accessable to criminals. the solution is simple. brutal to say the least but it's time for the ol.. eye for an eye. life for a life. and not by lethal injection. make it the worse thing a on the fence person would "HAVE TO" watch... manditory. every man,womanand child has to see it just like the gruesume movie in drivers ed. you wanna end up like this. go ahead. be a criminal. the world would instantly clean up and all those extra cops could go home. guaranteed.

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Pards13

Dec-30-13 5:12 PM

BlackFrancis1, that makes as much sense as legalizing all crimes to lower the crime rate.

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MrBoB51

Dec-31-13 6:47 AM

BF1, YOU are free to give up your gun to rely on somebody else for your safety or for any reason at all. YOU are free to abrogate your freedoms and rights to your beloved State. YOU are free to find a Country where everybody thinks like you. Good luck with that. Now, this part of the article makes me wonder: because of the program 'FBI has reportedly stopped hundreds of incidents since 2011'. Really? That's a LOT so prove it. Because the FBI says it's so does not make it the truth. After all, I watched Heckle and Jeckle on TV when I was a kid but I still don't believe crows can talk. Apparently one can say whatever one wants without qualification so I think I'll take the Editors lead and state that all those 'incidents' since 2011 are the result of Ritalin and Adderall pumped kids sitting in front of the TV playing ultra violent games rather than watching 'harmful' cartoons.

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taxtired

Dec-31-13 7:55 AM

bf1 More people die in car accidents then by guns. With your logic we should ban cars and go back to horses.

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BlackFrancis1

Dec-31-13 8:26 AM

Gun owners - what is your reason for keeping a gun (other than a hunting rifle) in your home? It can't be for personal protection because there is absolutely no evidence that having a gun in your home has a deterrent effect on crimes like home invasion; in fact, serious studies have shown that having a gun in the home increases the likelihood that someone who lives in the home will be injured or killed by that gun. Not a convincing argument. In fact, if a gun person just said that they think guns are cool and like the way they look holding a gun in front of a mirror - now that I would understand.

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TiredOfTax

Dec-31-13 8:34 AM

BlackFrancis1, What is YOUR reason to disarm private citizens? The only laws that they have broken is the laws passed that attempts to take away our constitutional right to have guns. What right do you or anyone have to say that we must give up our CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS TO OWN GUNS? I feel that if someone is doing harm to me, my family or my property that I HAVE the right to defend what I have worked my entire life to gain. I am not going to sit by and become a victim of YOUR representatives anti gun law madness!

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TiredOfTax

Dec-31-13 8:37 AM

PS BlackFrancis1, Why not put up a sign saying that you want to provide all of you possessions to criminals as I will not defend myself from anyone! Use a gun free zone sign. I am willing to bet the only deterrent there is the criminal thinking it is a trap, not an idiot without a gun!

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taxtired

Dec-31-13 8:53 AM

BF1 My reason is none of your concern. If you choose not to have one, that is your choice. Don't push your beliefs on others. As far as understanding; you never will with your logic.

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BlackFrancis1

Dec-31-13 9:38 AM

My reason for disarming private citizens is that it is those private citizens who walk into schools, political gatherings, etc and shoot innocent people with guns they had in their homes - that is my reason. Do I really need another one?

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BlackFrancis1

Dec-31-13 9:44 AM

And please - not the tired old "it's my constitutional right" excuse again. The constitution guarantees citizens the right to bear arms as part of a well ordered militia. A hand gun tucked under your mattress or on the top shelf in a closet, or even locked safely away in a gun cabinet doesn't fit that description.

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Annarondac

Dec-31-13 9:56 AM

Mentally disturbed private citizens shoot innocent people. Show where a mentally competent individual went on a mass shooting spree. Even in countries where guns are illegal, it does not stop the criminals, who are also disturbed, in using firearms. Just an aside, I think it's really cool and rewarding target shooting.

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taxtired

Dec-31-13 9:58 AM

BF1: If you are so against it why don't you move to a communist country like Cuba where the citizens ARE disarmed ????? Sounds like you would fit right in.

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Pards13

Dec-31-13 9:59 AM

I'll keep mine thank you. BF1 you are welcome to do whatever you want with yours. The nuts are out there and they will figure a way to do harm another way. You would have better luck banning call of duty or other games like it. More harm comes from those games than any good.

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taxtired

Dec-31-13 10:01 AM

BF1: North Korea is looking for basketball players.

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MrBoB51

Dec-31-13 10:40 AM

BF1...'serious studies have shown...'??? You have to be kidding. Do you really think you can throw out completely unsubstantiated drivel like that and get away with it? Another poster here has the same bad habit so go somewhere else and peddle your BS sir, we've already got one here and that's more than enough.

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adkkev

Dec-31-13 10:42 AM

Wait, what? Crows can't talk?

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MrBoB51

Dec-31-13 10:53 AM

I'd sure like to see a few of you stout liberals try to dis-arm an American Gun Owner with nothing but harsh language. Hehheheh. BF1 you can scream, demand, become so apoplectic you begin to look like a Smurf but NO ONE will ever confiscate our Guns and you can't stand it. Enjoy your agida.

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MrBoB51

Dec-31-13 10:54 AM

Uh oh, I got caught. I was just kidding adkkev.

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BlackFrancis1

Dec-31-13 11:54 AM

Point taken MrBob - I was sure you would give me the benefit of the doubt. Here are 2 pertinent studies: 1. Hemenway, D. (2011) Metareview of research re: health risks associated with guns in the home, Harvard Injury Control Research Center. 2. Wiebe, D.J. (2003) Homocide and suicide risks associated with guns in homes, Annals of Emergency Medicine. The data are very convincing.

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adkkev

Dec-31-13 12:01 PM

Thanks MrBob!! what a relief ... I was worried that I'd also find out that coyotes can't mail order stuff from the Acme Company! oh, the horror of it all ... wait, were we talking about guns?

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drugsrus

Dec-31-13 12:05 PM

BF1, you are one gullible dude to believe that stuff. There is data out there to support just about any position on any subject no matter how wrong it really might be. But you found this stuff on the internet and we all know that you can't post anything on the internet that isn't true.

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drugsrus

Dec-31-13 12:08 PM

A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." -- George Washington

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