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Pentagon wastes funds

December 13, 2013

The Pentagon cannot account for more than $8 trillion U.S. taxpayers have given it since 1996, according to a report by the Reuters news agency....

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FedUp0416

Dec-13-13 11:18 AM

A government agency wasting money? That cannot be. Must be George Bush has the money in his sock drawer. Hey, I got an idea - Let's give the government control of healthcare- it is just one sixth of our economy. I am sure they can do a good job with that. Look out below!!!!

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Patriot1

Dec-13-13 2:27 PM

Hire Ralph Peters (google him), put him in charge of military purchases, and watch the cost decrease while the efficiency and effective usage rises. A true patriot.

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DaveGibson

Dec-13-13 3:39 PM

I think we should cut off all military spending except military salaries. If the Pentagon wants helicopters or aircraft carriers, they can have a bake sale.

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adkkev

Dec-13-13 4:21 PM

FedUp: Medicare is federally funded & more cost effective than the current private for-profit health care than is presently available to citizens of the United States. For-profit insurance companies control the cost of health care in this country. And they're doing a bang-up job, aren't they? Well at least for their executives and stock holders.

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rschweizer

Dec-13-13 10:46 PM

fedup, defense is a LOT more in costs than healthcare. A LOT.

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MrBoB51

Dec-14-13 9:42 AM

Rs, 'Defense' has made this abomination possible.

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MrBoB51

Dec-14-13 9:45 AM

Adkkev, if Medicare is Federally funded why the h@@l does it cost me so much EVERY MONTH???!!

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FedUp0416

Dec-14-13 10:01 AM

RS - That is a very profound statement. Care to cite where you found that wealth of information? You say defense is "ALOT" more than healthcare. Enlighten me - Give me some hard facts on spending amounts rather than a simple statement that has no basis. Like with most liberals, I am sure you won't attempt to use facts. They tend to get in the way of your pollyanish arguments.

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MrBoB51

Dec-14-13 10:08 AM

I believe not only the Pentagon, but every Govt. 'Agency' wastes our money. Thank you Baseline Budgeting. I am also in the camp that believes the future is technology and our Military needs to adapt..quickly. Massive military engagements are a thing of the past since we can hit an amassed army with a couple TNW's from anywhere on Earth and !poof! it ends right there. Anyhow, it's the bureaucracies within these Depts. that are run by unaccountable and unelected self-serving 'officials' where the waste occurs. These underbosses, so to speak, have become a Fourth Branch of Govt that is apparently, unlike the other three, not answerable to anyone. Flush that toilet first.

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TiredOfTax

Dec-14-13 10:33 AM

Our nation is on a spree, it has been for some time and that spree is going to undo many lifetimes of hard work. Now as in recent past the answer to all problems is throw on a few more billions... time to spend wisely. I know that I am Taxed Enough Already!

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drugsrus

Dec-14-13 12:49 PM

editorial title is the understatement of the century (so far)

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MrBoB51

Dec-15-13 10:19 AM

That about sums it up TOT.

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TiredOfTax

Dec-15-13 12:43 PM

Oh yes Dave lets bow down to even the lowest form of bully... why not just give everyone a life sentence of slavery? We would not stand a chance in this world without a very STRONG Military!

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TiredOfTax

Dec-15-13 12:44 PM

Sorry for the delayed reaction...It took me a while to build up the interest in what Dave had to say to finally go ahead and read his post!

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adkkev

Dec-15-13 2:52 PM

MrBob: how much does Medicare cost you each month? How does that compare to a health insurance policy that you may purchase from a private for-profit health insurance company? And quite honestly, I am surprised that you are participating in this socialist program. Why are you?

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drugsrus

Dec-15-13 3:33 PM

adkkev, there is no choice for Medicare participation. I was notified that my Medicare premium would be deducted from my Social Security check starting the month I turned 65. To the tune of about $110/mo. They didn't ask IF I wanted to participate. Then I had to get a medi-gap policy for a couple hundred more per month. It's a good thing I'm healthy

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MrBoB51

Dec-15-13 4:02 PM

Why? I was forced to just like you are and I'm doing ok. Concern should be for those Americans under 50 and, next year everybody who has Employer provided Healthcare. You can try to keep your sanity if you like it....but...

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MrBoB51

Dec-15-13 4:21 PM

One thing drugs, until this mess is sorted out I cancelled my gap insurance and my drug coverage because my actual costs are less than the premiums plus copays, I don't take high priced maintenance drugs, don't use the Emergency room unless unconscious and I pay my GP and Cardiologist cash at a huge discount. I save money. Sure, it's a gamble but whats available today is way more of a gamble.

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FedUp0416

Dec-16-13 7:12 AM

Hey RS - NO RESPONSE? Why am I not surprised. Typical liberal - make a completely false and unfounded statement, then when called out on it, just ignore and move on -

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Pards13

Dec-16-13 10:05 AM

Good idea Dave, and when the new overmasters take over I'm sure they ask you what job you would like to do.

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LoyalSocialist

Dec-16-13 10:18 AM

$633 Billion military spending approved for 2014: ***********reutersDOTcom/article/2013/12/12/us-usa-defense-bill-idUSBRE9BB1CU20131212

2012 Medicaid Spending: $415 billion. *******kffDOTorg/medicaid/state-indicator/total-medicaid-spending/

Medicaid directly helps American citizens, "defense spending" injures/kills both Americans and non-Americans.

I'd rather take on the first cost.

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Pards13

Dec-16-13 11:46 AM

Loyal, the first allows the second. There is waste in both budgets. The second penalizes those on Medicaid to try to improve themselves by eliminating instead of reducing the benefits they receive for going to work. If you really want to live in another world call Putin, I think he is looking for a few Loyal Socialists.

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FedUp0416

Dec-16-13 12:48 PM

LOYAL - While I appreciate your attempt to speak for your fellow liberal RS, you should not cherry pick your "facts". Defense spending for 2014 is scheduled to be 670 billion. Medicaid is 455 billion. But you seem to have forgotten Medicare which is 251 billion. That equals 676 billion. (Numbers came from CBO site. Next time you see your liberal friend RS, tell him that 670 is NOT alot more than 676. But with Common Core, you would probably get credit for it just for giving it a good try.

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LoyalSocialist

Dec-16-13 1:11 PM

Yes, there is waste in both of these programs and something should be done to change that. But, until that happens, would you rather see your tax $ go to another country's defense or to help actual U.S. citizens that cannot afford overpriced private insurance? I love how the right screams about the government taking away their rights, yet are COMPLETELY fine with expanding spending and use of the armed forces (the government's way to control it's citizens)?... Also, Medicaid and Medicare costs are high because... well... there really is no reason. The government doesn't do enough to regulate the healthcare industry's ludacris pricing. While this will not change anytime soon, I would seriously rather see my tax $ go back into the country, instead of overseas.

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PleaseGetAClue

Dec-16-13 9:51 PM

healthcare is only one-sixth of our economy because insurance costs and pharmaceutical companies have driven it up and are charging outrageous prices for everything health care

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