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Teachers must ‘get it’

December 2, 2013

The overwhelming majority of school teachers are well aware that while to err is human, even one mistake jeopardizing the health or safety of a child is too many....

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taxtired

Dec-02-13 1:08 PM

Should have been fired for child abuse.

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drugsrus

Dec-02-13 1:08 PM

maybe she should have just sat at her desk and observed the unruly behavior until the ankle biters settled themselves?? Raising her voice would have been an act of aggression. This behavior comes from the homefront. Or maybe she should have called an administrator to handle the problem. The reprimand reduces her ability to control the classroom. How about making parents attend with the kiddies to maintain discipline??

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Pards13

Dec-02-13 1:09 PM

It seems that the teacher needs to learn a lesson. An hour in the rain with out a coat and a copy of her resume to freshen up for a new job.

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drugsrus

Dec-02-13 1:12 PM

taxtired, there was a time when the kiddies would have been in bigger trouble when they got home for being disruptive in the classroom. That "child abuse" thing has gotten out of hand. Most times discipline is far from abuse.

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drugsrus

Dec-02-13 1:15 PM

pards and taxtired, - do you remember a time when the parents stood behind the teachers on discipline ?? yea, that was soooo long ago I almost forgot it too.

Why do neither of you blame the little brats??

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TiredOfTax

Dec-02-13 2:13 PM

All the students should get "participation" awards for going in the rain and some hugs for misbehaving in the first place. How exactly does this prepare children to be able to cope with a day in the real world? Everything today is considered to be either correct pure evil. Just like DC there just isn't any middle ground anymore.

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PleaseGetAClue

Dec-02-13 2:20 PM

Only TOT could work in an angle on DC to this article. Get over it TOT. It is getting very old

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rocky1

Dec-02-13 3:17 PM

Let's look at it from the teachers prospective. She starts the year off by telling the class what is appropriate behavior in the class room. She tells them to settle down and stay quiet, they ignore her and do what they want. She punishes them with the least pain possible. She has them stand in the rain. Big deal, bet not one of them melted! If this teacher is expected to teach, she needs control so that everyone learns and if they didn't learn a lesson from this, then forget Math and English. Let mom and dad keep them home and teach them!

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Pards13

Dec-02-13 3:18 PM

Drugs, the answer to your question "Why do neither of you blame the little brats??" from my side is the following. Punish my child with the normal convention not the abnormal. Have them practice their penmanship, write an essay on what proper behavior or something constructive. She had enough control to round the little "monsters" to get them outdoors in the rain she should be able to control them in class. Call me if my kid is bad, I'll take care of it. This woman is more of a sadist than a teacher. If it was my kid a lawsuit would be filed demanding she stand in the rain. From my point she is not much of a teacher and is just collecting a paycheck. Get rid of her before she really hurts a kid.

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Pards13

Dec-02-13 3:33 PM

As a kid I had a second grade teacher that use to punish us by pulling us out of our chairs by an ear. She also thought it was good fun to jab us in the head with a pen letter opener till we bled. I guess I deserved it because I was "a little brat".

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drugsrus

Dec-02-13 3:57 PM

yea pards, a time out would really teach the little brats a lot. That time in the rain also gave them time to reflect on exactly why they were there. That lawsuit would really show the teacher who the boss is. It would give your kid a blank check-- "I'll tell my dad and then you'll be sorry"

"practice their penmanship, write an essay" and when would that be due??? That "punishment" would accomplish nothing. And before they can practice penmanship, most of todays urchins need to be taught how to hold a writing implement. I can't even hold a pen the way most kids write with one today.

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Pards13

Dec-02-13 4:20 PM

Well there you go drugs, a teachable moment. If they don't learn put them in the rain like the POWs. If you did that to my kid this is what would happen. First the kid gets punished, next the teacher gets a visit. If she cannot control sixth graders then she has no business being a teacher. Call it quits and let another do the job. As far as what writing an essay would do? It might teach you which do to use.

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DaveGibson

Dec-02-13 4:30 PM

I don't think the teacher was out of line. Today's children aren't being properly disciplined, neither at home nor in school. A couple of minutes in the rain would be enough to get the kids' attention.

While I'm on my soap box, I'd bring back the dress codes that we had in the 50s and 60s. Kids need to learn that while in school they are to act and behave respectfully. This will better prepare them for entering the workforce one day, where everyone is expected to act and dress respectfully.

I can't believe how badly my generation has messed up our educational system.

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drugsrus

Dec-02-13 4:53 PM

wow Dave, great post, sometimes there is hope. And I'm being serious here. GOOD JOB

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drugsrus

Dec-02-13 5:00 PM

sure Pards, the kid gets "punished" at home. With what??? a "timeout"??? sent to his room?? with the PS, computer and TV??? Then you are going to have a face to face with the teacher because your little darling was part of a problem?? not your kid, he wouldn't be like that.

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Pards13

Dec-02-13 5:26 PM

Yeah, my kids got time outs when they were little, they got spanked, they got grounded, lost their car privileges (not entitlement) etc. I did not abuse them nor will I allow them to be abused. There were consequences and they turned out alright. One in college and one in second year grad school. Their teachers were aware if there was a problem that they could not handle then call me and I will and did handle it. My kids are not a saints however both go out of their way to help others. I did have face to face conversations with their teachers and issues were worked out. A little communication works wonders. Abuse my kid and we Will communicate. Doing what she did is borderline abuse and should not be tolerated. Out of control kids should be dealt with constructively. Sticking them in the rain, throwing them out of school is not the answer. She lost control and respect as soon as she put them outside in the rain.

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drugsrus

Dec-02-13 5:33 PM

OK Pards, good job with the kids. the big problem is none of us was there. All the "reports" are second hand at best. She was the only one there and had to deal with things in real time, coulda, shoulda, woulda is all second guessing. I'm still on her side given what we do know.

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Pards13

Dec-02-13 5:38 PM

Most of what is discussed here is second hand at best. You are entitled to your belief as I. She made a bad choice and I would have to believe would like to have "do over". Some people are natural teachers and others are not.

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adkgirl

Dec-02-13 6:15 PM

Really, L-H? With everything going on in the world, you have to choose one article about one out of line teacher? And, like others posted, I would like to know "the rest of the story" in the words of Paul Harvey. Why don't you dedicate one column a week to the amazing things teachers, aides, administrators, cafeteria workers, bus drivers, custodians, all school staff do for children.

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adkgirl

Dec-02-13 6:17 PM

Additionally, why not dedicate a RIP column to all the school staff being injured and killed by kids. One "child" is just going on trial for slitting his teacher's throat. Another just set her teacher on fire. Teachers do not know the backgrounds of the "children" they are dealing with. At least police get training and protection. School staff are sitting ducks.

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TiredOfTax

Dec-02-13 7:20 PM

You know how Nancy Pelosi said that they had to pass the healthcare bill to see whats inside? That is exactly like a stool sample! And both are truly crap.

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drugsrus

Dec-02-13 7:58 PM

ToT, usually I'm on your side, BUT here???? really???

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TiredOfTax

Dec-02-13 9:40 PM

I believe it was requested. When someone is so insistent that I refrain... I simply cannot resist! Plus have you ever seen an instance when it is not proper to display the trouble with progressives? Especially Obama and his posse.

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TiredOfTax

Dec-02-13 9:47 PM

When someone want to point me out to bring attention to themselves. I fell that is an invitation to entertain them even more. How much more can we get pleased? Answer is a LOT more. In the words of the loser in the white house... "bring it".

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usedtolivethere

Dec-03-13 8:06 AM

TOT, here's an idea! Why don't you turn an editorial about teacher competence into a political rant? I'm sure everyone on here looks forward to that and would find it very entertaining! Please consider it

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