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October 16, 2013

During a partial shutdown of the government, there isn’t enough money to keep national parks open, but federal wildlife areas can be opened to waterfowl hunting....

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Oct-16-13 12:23 PM

Wishful thinking. There will be no probe or investigation of any merit since this is all discretionary and within the Executive Branch's authority. Why they do what they do/did may be questionable as in 'why did that accident happen' but that's about it. Things like this are settled at the ballot box.

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Oct-16-13 2:23 PM

That’s right, it’s wishful thinking. Republicans shut down the government and left the ability to choose to the Executive Branch. The Republicans lost the last presidential election so you don’t get to choose. To the victor belong the spoils. I am sure that the President would rather have had the government open for business than make the difficult decision of what continues and what doesn’t. Don’t make idiotic decisions that are detrimental to the good of the country and then question decisions that are made during the crisis you created.

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Oct-16-13 2:40 PM

What's crazy is that this corporate editor still has a job as a political pundit. Instead of blaming Obama, how about laying the blame squarely where it belongs, on John Boehner and Eric Cantor who will not bring a clean continuing resolution to a vote on the House floor.

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Oct-16-13 2:53 PM

I am a conservative and the Repubs blew a big opportunity over the last few weeks. Had they just let the libs have their way and let them spend other peoples money as they do so well, the poll numbers would be through the roof. The libs were imploding and ObamaCare was the ammo we needed to finish them off. Fortunately for us, ObamaCare is still limping along and will continue to be a failure long after the American people forget about this October. You see, the debt ceiling will ALWAYS be an issue as long as the libs are allowed to spend and spend and spend with no consideration of who is paying (THE MIDDLE CLASS IS WHO IS PAYING). But when ObamaCare gets in to full gear (once the webiste works!! LOL LOL), the American people will see that Obamacare is just another step towards government control of our private lives. Libs dont mind that. Conservatives do. It will work out in the long run. Just be sit back and let the libs go. Guaranteed they screw it up. They ALWAYS do.

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Oct-16-13 3:24 PM

fedup, Yes the Republicans have screwed this entire position trying to stop Obama care /ACA they try something else and start representing the people of this country. When will they understand that they are wrong they tried over 40 times over the last 3 years to repeal it and they were not able.

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Oct-16-13 6:14 PM

This editorial is very accurate, the issues listed within are totally honest. Obama is the president of the USA, not just the progressive liberals. In the end what he gets is what has happened during his presidency, and it hasn't been pretty. The entire time he has been dividing our country and promoting anger as well as his agenda. All along party lines, he will reap what he has sown and it is anger and partisan politics. Lets see him spend his way out of this one!

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Oct-16-13 6:21 PM

(CNSNews****) - Every business day since May 17, the U.S. Treasury has published a daily statement claiming that the federal debt subject to the limit set by Congress closed the day at $16,699,396,000,000—about $25 million below the legal limit.

Monday, the Columbus Day holiday, according to the Daily Treasury Statement released today, marked the 150th straight day that the Treasury has said the debt subject to limit was stuck at $16,699,396,000,000.

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Oct-16-13 7:21 PM

ToT: try doing a little research & find out why the debt stayed the same for that time period.

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Oct-16-13 7:33 PM

adkkev, I did and what I found was the liar in charge chose to not report the truth. He is full of lies as the debt to income ratio was upside down for each and every month that the debt did not change! It is like the "if you like your insurance do nothing you can keep it" line, in many cases it is wrong and in other cases it has some truth... just higher costs and a much higher deductible.

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Oct-16-13 7:44 PM

Fedup...Re "the libs always screw up"...I didn't know George Bush jr was a lib!

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Oct-16-13 7:49 PM

TOT, you have to be pretty ignorant to think that the president controls the budget. That would be the House of Representatives. Certainly, the president, as the executive branch, has veto power and some control, ultimately it is the House that controls spending, per our Constitution.

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Oct-16-13 8:42 PM

So how deep does the corruption run then Dave? I have read most your posts... I do know who the ignorant one is!

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Oct-17-13 7:09 AM

Hey Look you won... see you in January for a repeat of the partisan dominated hate fest! Huge win? It is not over and it never will be.

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Oct-17-13 7:51 AM

Senate DEMOCRATS added 3 BILLION DOLLARS of useless pork barrel spending to the spending bill that opened the government. YIPPEE! Liberals are the heroes aren't they? NOPE! More debt for the grandkids!

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Oct-17-13 8:27 AM

LAKER88 - That is the best you have? To bring up 5 years ago? Get over him - Quit living in the past. Maybe get rid of the leisure suit and and join us in 2013. It is scary here in 2013. We have run away debt, more people on public assistance than ever before, record unemployment and record low labor participation. Median income has dropped every year from 2009 to present. Debt = 103% of GDP. 48% of the people paying no taxes and living off of those of us that go out and work every day. It is pretty scary. On second thought, maybe I should join you living in the past. Got room in your Ford Pinto to take me to DSS for my free money?

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Oct-17-13 8:38 AM

Fedup, is that 48% not paying taxes Romney's 48%? Interested to hear where that number came from.

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Oct-17-13 8:40 AM

Next up for Republicans?

“It’s at least possible with sinking poll numbers for the Republicans, with a [GOP] brand that is badly damaged as the party that can’t govern responsibly and is reckless that they’re going to say, ‘All right, what can we do that will be in our political interest and also do tough things?’” said Frank Sharry, executive director of the immigration reform group America’s Voice. “That’s where immigration could fill the bill.”

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Oct-17-13 8:43 AM

WASHINGTON — A deal to reopen the government and avert a debt default also includes language authorizing more than $2.8 billion in funding for a locks and****project championed in the past by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.

The provision would steer $2.918 billion in funding to the Army Corps of Engineers for the Olmsted****and lock project on the Ohio River, and would benefit Kentucky, Tennessee, and Illinois.

TOT, this was not a Senate Democrat. If you're going to be our watchdog, please watch everything.

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Oct-17-13 8:44 AM

the asterisks are for d a m

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Oct-17-13 9:07 AM

ToT:here's why the debt didn't change:"On May 17, Treasury Secretary Jack Lew sent House Speaker John Boehner a letter indicating that the Treasury was then hitting the legal limit on the debt and that he would begin using “extraordinary measures” to allow the government to continue borrowing money without exceeding that limit.“In total, the extraordinary measures currently available free up approximately $260 billion in headroom under the limit, as described below,” said an appendix to Lew’s letter.Among the “extraordinary measures” Lew said he could take to create this “headroom” under the debt limit were: 1) not investing new money from the Civil Service Retirement and Disability Fund (CSRDF) in U.S. Treasury securities, which he said would create $6.4 billion in “headroom” per month, 2) not reinvesting $58 billion ion Treasury Securities held by the CSRDF that would be maturing and notreinvesting $16 billion in interest owed to the fund, which would create $74 billion in head

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Oct-17-13 10:12 AM

Bereal, I'm not sure what you mean by 'to the victor belong the spoils'. We're not Romans or Vikings or Huns, so what are those 'spoils' you refer to?

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Oct-17-13 12:15 PM

I wonder where the left wing taxwasters will hide when Obamacouldcareless HELLthcare is fully implements creating two classes of American citizens. I suspect that the time for chatting will be over by then.

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Oct-17-13 1:30 PM

So adkkev, they have money to use when they want? I want to get on the plan where I can spend more than I make but not raise my debt... simple math for a crook?

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Oct-17-13 1:36 PM

Hey Laker, GWB was as liberal as republicans should ever get. And he was working with a DEMOCRAT majority run congress for the last two years of his presidency. I hope that Obama gets his last two years with REPUBLICANS controlling both houses.

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Oct-17-13 2:14 PM

ToT: did you even bother to read the full post? They didn't spend money ... they chose not to fund certain "obligations" so that freed up $$ to pay other bills instead. That "freed up $$" was going to used up by October, hence the need to raise the debt ceiling.

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