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Shutdown madness

October 16, 2013

During a partial shutdown of the government, there isn’t enough money to keep national parks open, but federal wildlife areas can be opened to waterfowl hunting....

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MrBoB51

Oct-20-13 12:16 PM

No statue of limitations FedUp, not when even Obama blames Bush for Obama.

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FedUp0416

Oct-19-13 4:20 PM

Is there a statute of limitations on the left blaming Bush? If you lefties didn't have that as an answer, these comment boards would have a lot less comments. When faced with a direct question, you totally ignore the post and say something about Bush. Bush was 5 years ago. How about coming up with something else. Once I read a "It was Bush's fault" post, I find the rest of the content has NO credibility.

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gville70

Oct-19-13 8:31 AM

Good retort Fedup..Let's not tax big business or the rich... Cause they force me to buy that ipad or that chicken...LOL Let's see ..how well did the Bush era tax cuts do for the budget again?? Hummmmmm???? All those entitlements created millions of jobs and didn't lead to economic disaster and debt??? Oh right they did...Nice try dude..

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Pards13

Oct-18-13 9:46 AM

Fedup, you forgot if expenses go up corps go to cheaper sources, jobs go overseas or lost to robots (car industry). If expenses cannot be passed on then they go out of business which = job losses. Go ahead and raise those taxes and see how much revenue you get.

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MrBoB51

Oct-18-13 9:29 AM

Think about this, the same America that elected Democrat Obama, a Democrat Senate also elected a Republican House. America elected a divided Government and that means compromise whether some Americans like it or not. To you low information Americans and 'spoils' advocates, that (simply) means Democrats get to make Laws and Republicans get the Money.

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FedUp0416

Oct-18-13 5:42 AM

GVLLE70 - Good Idea lets tax the corporations. Because we all know that they absorb that cost and do not pass it down to the consumer. When Apple gets taxed more, I am sure your Ipad will not go up in cost. When Tyson Food is taxed more, I am sure they will not raise the price of Chicken. When McDonalds gets taxed more I am sure they will not raise the price of their fries. And if you believe all that, take off the rose colored glasses. If you have ever run a business, you know that increased costs to the business equals increased costs to the end buyer. That would be the middle class of America because the rich don't care because they can afford the increase and the poor don't care because they are getting free money to buy those things. Good Idea GVLLE70.

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gville70

Oct-17-13 8:17 PM

Or TOT they could start taxing the rich and corporations again..

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TiredOfTax

Oct-17-13 8:04 PM

Eliminating the U.S. government’s debt is easy — every American worker, including the poor, could make a one-time payment of $123,000 cover their share of the debt, according to a study conducted by Harvard University’s Institute of Politics.

When the debt share is expanded to living person in the country, from newborns to the elderly, each citizen would still owe the government a whopping $53,000.

Even worse, Harvard updated its findings since January 2013 — only nine months ago, employed Americans would owe $106,000 per worker and all Americans would owe approximately $52,000.

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TiredOfTax

Oct-17-13 7:12 PM

Expenditures over what is brought in = deficit spending. To add a slap to that they spent BILLIONS IN PORK to end the shutdown. Brilliant leadership from those clowns in charge of spending... must be that progressive GWB's fault!

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adkkev

Oct-17-13 2:14 PM

ToT: did you even bother to read the full post? They didn't spend money ... they chose not to fund certain "obligations" so that freed up $$ to pay other bills instead. That "freed up $$" was going to used up by October, hence the need to raise the debt ceiling.

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TiredOfTax

Oct-17-13 1:36 PM

Hey Laker, GWB was as liberal as republicans should ever get. And he was working with a DEMOCRAT majority run congress for the last two years of his presidency. I hope that Obama gets his last two years with REPUBLICANS controlling both houses.

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TiredOfTax

Oct-17-13 1:30 PM

So adkkev, they have money to use when they want? I want to get on the plan where I can spend more than I make but not raise my debt... simple math for a crook?

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Adirondackal

Oct-17-13 12:15 PM

I wonder where the left wing taxwasters will hide when Obamacouldcareless HELLthcare is fully implements creating two classes of American citizens. I suspect that the time for chatting will be over by then.

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MrBoB51

Oct-17-13 10:12 AM

Bereal, I'm not sure what you mean by 'to the victor belong the spoils'. We're not Romans or Vikings or Huns, so what are those 'spoils' you refer to?

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adkkev

Oct-17-13 9:07 AM

ToT:here's why the debt didn't change:"On May 17, Treasury Secretary Jack Lew sent House Speaker John Boehner a letter indicating that the Treasury was then hitting the legal limit on the debt and that he would begin using “extraordinary measures” to allow the government to continue borrowing money without exceeding that limit.“In total, the extraordinary measures currently available free up approximately $260 billion in headroom under the limit, as described below,” said an appendix to Lew’s letter.Among the “extraordinary measures” Lew said he could take to create this “headroom” under the debt limit were: 1) not investing new money from the Civil Service Retirement and Disability Fund (CSRDF) in U.S. Treasury securities, which he said would create $6.4 billion in “headroom” per month, 2) not reinvesting $58 billion ion Treasury Securities held by the CSRDF that would be maturing and notreinvesting $16 billion in interest owed to the fund, which would create $74 billion in head

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usedtolivethere

Oct-17-13 8:44 AM

the asterisks are for d a m

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usedtolivethere

Oct-17-13 8:43 AM

WASHINGTON — A deal to reopen the government and avert a debt default also includes language authorizing more than $2.8 billion in funding for a locks and****project championed in the past by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.

The provision would steer $2.918 billion in funding to the Army Corps of Engineers for the Olmsted****and lock project on the Ohio River, and would benefit Kentucky, Tennessee, and Illinois.

TOT, this was not a Senate Democrat. If you're going to be our watchdog, please watch everything.

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usedtolivethere

Oct-17-13 8:40 AM

Next up for Republicans?

“It’s at least possible with sinking poll numbers for the Republicans, with a [GOP] brand that is badly damaged as the party that can’t govern responsibly and is reckless that they’re going to say, ‘All right, what can we do that will be in our political interest and also do tough things?’” said Frank Sharry, executive director of the immigration reform group America’s Voice. “That’s where immigration could fill the bill.”

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usedtolivethere

Oct-17-13 8:38 AM

Fedup, is that 48% not paying taxes Romney's 48%? Interested to hear where that number came from.

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FedUp0416

Oct-17-13 8:27 AM

LAKER88 - That is the best you have? To bring up 5 years ago? Get over him - Quit living in the past. Maybe get rid of the leisure suit and and join us in 2013. It is scary here in 2013. We have run away debt, more people on public assistance than ever before, record unemployment and record low labor participation. Median income has dropped every year from 2009 to present. Debt = 103% of GDP. 48% of the people paying no taxes and living off of those of us that go out and work every day. It is pretty scary. On second thought, maybe I should join you living in the past. Got room in your Ford Pinto to take me to DSS for my free money?

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TiredOfTax

Oct-17-13 7:51 AM

Senate DEMOCRATS added 3 BILLION DOLLARS of useless pork barrel spending to the spending bill that opened the government. YIPPEE! Liberals are the heroes aren't they? NOPE! More debt for the grandkids!

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TiredOfTax

Oct-17-13 7:09 AM

Hey Look you won... see you in January for a repeat of the partisan dominated hate fest! Huge win? It is not over and it never will be.

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TiredOfTax

Oct-16-13 8:42 PM

So how deep does the corruption run then Dave? I have read most your posts... I do know who the ignorant one is!

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DaveGibson

Oct-16-13 7:49 PM

TOT, you have to be pretty ignorant to think that the president controls the budget. That would be the House of Representatives. Certainly, the president, as the executive branch, has veto power and some control, ultimately it is the House that controls spending, per our Constitution.

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laker88

Oct-16-13 7:44 PM

Fedup...Re "the libs always screw up"...I didn't know George Bush jr was a lib!

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