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Approach must change

October 3, 2013

The economy is in the midst of a long, slow climb from the depths of the 2008 economic recession. Private-sector job growth is up statewide....

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TiredOfTax

Oct-03-13 2:04 PM

I wonder if it is the same in our counties as it is nationally where the unemployed figures are offset by the lower number of employed? Also there are millions more nationally that have dropped from looking for a job and are now on disability? I do not believe the numbers tell the true story!

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MrBoB51

Oct-03-13 3:04 PM

How unemployment is calculated changed when obama took office. The REAL number to look at is the Labor Participation Rate. Obamas number wizards cant fudge with that one...but they pick around the edges and THAT is pep talk his media reports, all those highly subjective and carefully stroked figures to keep the low information voters fooled into thinking there is anything like a 'recovery' going on in a PART TIME WORKFORCE. Yeah were recovering all right, recovering from a tedious yet demanding and productive Full Time America to a ...whatever the h*ll it is now.

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drugsrus

Oct-03-13 10:28 PM

long slow climb ???? we haven't gotten to the second rung of the ladder yet

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Annarondac

Oct-04-13 7:31 AM

We're sinking. Going from a full time work force to part time wages is not progress. The current administration's cooking the books of unemployment was meant to get the rate down below 8% prior to the re-election. Cloward & Piven strategy well at work.

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MrBoB51

Oct-04-13 9:17 AM

You're right Anna, absolutely a verbal bulls eye.

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MrBoB51

Oct-04-13 9:19 AM

Drugs in fact the ladder is still in the garage, broken.

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Stackrat

Oct-04-13 9:44 AM

Feels more like a chute, than a ladder!

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Hilltopper

Oct-04-13 12:03 PM

Wall Street is back, so is my 401K. Stocks are up and so is employment in China, Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines. Cheap foreign labor is a key ingredient in Nike, Apple, GE and all the rest. Rosie the Riviter is gone and replaced by Wang Fang and the Chinese gang.So my friend, take your pick. The choices are lower domestic unemployment figures, or a higher 401K. And, anyone who posted on this topic and chooses lower unemployment will forever be branded, in my book, as full of crap.

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Pards13

Oct-04-13 12:37 PM

Sorry Charlie, those jobs are gone. If the Apple and the rest could figure out how to use robots they would manufacture more in the US just like the auto industry. As far as being full of it try fish oil it works wonders. By the way Rosie had to work because the men were off fighting so we could continue to speak English (imagine that?).

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drugsrus

Oct-04-13 12:46 PM

Hill, are you awake???? seems like you are rambling

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TiredOfTax

Oct-04-13 2:00 PM

Hill, add me to that list, BRAND me. If you think that we are doing the best we can... you have on a pair of Obama rose colored glasses. If we had used the wasted money that democrats threw at the problem through stimulus, the money that they INVESTED in green technology, the shovel ready jobs, the cash for clunkers, the vacations and the HEALTHCARE blow out... then divided it by the people in the USA legally and gave each an equal share we would be light years ahead of where we are today! Yup I am branded!

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Hilltopper

Oct-04-13 2:03 PM

The fact that those jobs are gone is a result of decisions made by corporate America, not Obama. Those jobs are not coming back because cheap foreign goods and corporate profits are on everybody's wish list. Ramble on that Druggy. As far as speaking English, you watched one too many John Wayne movies. The "boogey man is at your door" rally cry was put to rest by the outcome of the Viet-Nam conflict.

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Hilltopper

Oct-04-13 2:07 PM

TOT: Hate to rain on your parade, but you were branded as full of crap long before today.

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drugsrus

Oct-04-13 2:18 PM

OUCH (for ToT), 'topper is on a roll. Must be off his meds

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Hilltopper

Oct-04-13 2:46 PM

No Druggy, just trying to add some balance. The comments were so far to the right that they fell off the deep end. The cooler temperatures are more conducive to a spirited debate, and since the left seem to have adandoned ship I'll fill in until they get tired of playing outside. Speaking of missing, what happened to Disco?

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Pards13

Oct-04-13 2:59 PM

A little eco 101 is in order. If a product cost more than what the consumer is willing to spend they won't buy it. If it is to cheap the manufacturer will not make it. At equilibrium almost everyone is happy. If costs cannot be contained or substituted (labor, robots, mechanization) then manufacturer has to find other sources (off shore labor) or go out of business. A good example of this is the glove business. They went off shore and out of business. As far as English, it was good enough for the Chinese, Japanese, Italians, etc. then it should be good enough for the next round of immigrants. Don't like then go back. Guess I am a little tired of the PC crap.

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Pards13

Oct-04-13 3:04 PM

Sorry if I sound grumpy but I am still working on my health care. I was able to log on and that was it. Used their dumb calculator. My Obama care is still 75% more than my old pre-Obama care.

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drugsrus

Oct-04-13 3:08 PM

good question hill. he's been conspicuously absent for some time.

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Hilltopper

Oct-04-13 4:10 PM

Pard: Thank you for that explanation and for correctly caling unemployment a "business" decision, not an "Obama" decision. I could not have done better myself.

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Annarondac

Oct-04-13 4:59 PM

Jeffrey Immelt, the CEO of General Electric, the Head of Obama's Jobs Council for "the creation of the jobs of tomorrow" moved 34,000 jobs out of the US since taking over GE in 2001. The GE made light bulbs were made in the US, are now replaced by stature for CFL's which are made in China. Tell me Obama's administration is involved in keeping jobs in America.

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Annarondac

Oct-04-13 5:23 PM

One more. The Obama administration awarded a Canadian tech company, CGI, over $1.4 Billion in federal contracts. By the way, they are administering the government health care website. Where are the American companies?

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Hilltopper

Oct-04-13 6:08 PM

Its Obama's fault that GE moved moved 34000 jobs out of the US since 2001, especially the job loses at GE during Bush's presidency from 2001-2009.

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TiredOfTax

Oct-04-13 8:13 PM

Thanks Hilltopper, in your upside down world where right is wrong and down is up then you complemented me! I knew you were a fan!

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TiredOfTax

Oct-05-13 7:05 AM

Have you noticed the government shutdown? That is what I thought, it is very non-essential to many. And WAY over used by MANY!

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Ron1960

Oct-05-13 8:08 AM

TOT, Wait and see how many people will be affected if this shutdown continues long enough to keep the social security checks are not sent out and medicare benefits are no longer paid. Then where is the government going to get the money to pay all the back pay for those employees that lost much during the shut down. Then we have the issue of increasing debt ceiling and if that is not approved that would be a real serious deal. I thought that the Republicans were upset about the unemployment being so high and they are putting people out of work and they will not be able to get unemployment. The Republican Tea Party fools need to be tossed out and kept out.

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