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Delaying law would be fair

October 2, 2013

Americans ought to be clear on why some sectors of the federal government “shut down” Tuesday mornin....

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drugsrus

Oct-03-13 11:44 PM

ToT, I thought that was a good idea. I was sitting on the porch waiting for the parade

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TiredOfTax

Oct-03-13 8:59 PM

You know that I was joking about the nude protesters last weekend right?

Obamacare organizers in Colorado are taking Obamacare promotion to a new low – at least in terms of their dress code. A health insurance provider is sending 20-something activists out on the streets of Denver in their underwear to persuade young people to 'get covered.'

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drugsrus

Oct-03-13 8:55 PM

usedto, I've been on the road all day and I just read your posts. You had all day and you still didn't answer the questions posed. shall we keep waiting or assume that the answers are beyond your scope

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quentin

Oct-03-13 7:15 PM

There is nothing "fair" about delaying a law that is meant to help people in need of health insurance. This editorial holds a position devoid of moral standing and causes me to degrade my general opinion of this newspaper.

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usedtolivethere

Oct-03-13 12:48 PM

she has no point, except on the top of her head

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adkkev

Oct-03-13 12:42 PM

MrBob's post:""We have established procedures for creating laws and executing them in this country, and even if we disagree with the final outcome, we've always come together as a nation and have moved forward". OK dave, explain Why Defense of Marriage Act is gone, or slavery, or Prohibition. Your lack of historical knowledge and constant agitprop is getting really boring." I don't understand what YOU are saying. DOMA struck down by the SCOTUS, so we move forward. Slavery & Prohibition abolished through Constitutional Amendment. And the country moved forward afterwards...procedures est. by the Constitution were followed in each case. So I don't get what your point is MrBob.

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usedtolivethere

Oct-03-13 10:55 AM

very good Bill, like no one knew that. My point was neither are laws passed by popular majority

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Pards13

Oct-03-13 9:56 AM

How come when they shut down the government they start guarding things that were never guarded before?

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BillLair

Oct-03-13 9:28 AM

Not confusing at all if one can read and comprehend the Constitution. Presidents of the United States are not elected by popular majority.

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usedtolivethere

Oct-03-13 8:40 AM

Hey drugs, in the 2000 election Gore received more popular votes than Bush. What part of that was confusing...oh yeah, the whole thing. So your point would be what?

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Ron1960

Oct-03-13 7:46 AM

I agree that the individuals should be given the same treatment as the large companies. But why is it that the republicans did not bring this up and vote on it long ago, no they spent much time voting to repeal the ACA and were not able to do that. Also In my opinion the leaders should put these bills on the table for a vote by all members of their respective branch of the government. Reid and Bohner are not allowing all members to have a say and they are just as much to blame for this BS as the president. I agree that once the bill is passed and become s the law of the land any changes to it should be voted on by all members of the legislative branch of the government. But at the same time I believe that once a bill becomes law and the police go out and do their job of arresting the offenders the prosecutors should prosecute the offenders to the full extent of the law not just giving some a pass, are not the laws to be enforced equal and fairly?

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MrBoB51

Oct-03-13 7:04 AM

Once the fatigue and chaos as planned is in full swing the libs will break out the white horse and come riding to the 'rescue' with their Single Payer Govt. Healthcare System. It's just a matter of time so wait for it.

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MrBoB51

Oct-03-13 6:54 AM

Good questions Bill, 'do as I say, not as I do" comes to mind. Liberals live by that meme.

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Patriot1

Oct-03-13 6:54 AM

Timezup 1:48 PM -- You were never truly a Republican - this is merely verbal posturing to advocate a socialist agenda.

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MrBoB51

Oct-03-13 6:50 AM

"We have established procedures for creating laws and executing them in this country, and even if we disagree with the final outcome, we've always come together as a nation and have moved forward". OK dave, explain Why Defense of Marriage Act is gone, or slavery, or Prohibition. Your lack of historical knowledge and constant agitprop is getting really boring.

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TiredOfTax

Oct-02-13 10:11 PM

10,535 PAGES! REALLY? IS THIS REFORM??

Since March 2010, when President Barack Obama signed the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) and its companion Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act (HCERA), various federal agencies have published in the Federal Register 110 final regulations governing how Obamacare will be implemented.

Those regulations add up to 10,535 pages in the Federal Register. That is more than eight times as many pages as there are in the Gutenberg Bible, which has 642 two-sided leaves or 1,286 pages.

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TiredOfTax

Oct-02-13 9:55 PM

Delay the individual mandate... it is not the end of Obamacare and would appease the republicans. Or sit there in the white house and hold your breath like the spoiled child you are acting like!

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TiredOfTax

Oct-02-13 9:48 PM

There is never ever any reason not to question a mistake. This law is that and more. It is wrong, it was strong armed into law using tactics that should land them in jail. This legislation is not worth the time it took to print and likely democrats still haven't read it. This is not the end it is the beginning to the fight to rid us of this type of bogus leadership.

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drugsrus

Oct-02-13 9:13 PM

Good point BillLair. usedto and GetAClue , can you enlighten us as to Mr. Lair's concerns??? or shall we just deal with it like good subjects to king Barry????

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BillLair

Oct-02-13 8:50 PM

I agree that the ACA is the duly constituted law of the land as it stands. It was passed by congress, signed into law by the president and allowed to stand by the USSC. Having that in mind I am wondering why it does not apply to all? Why are there some 1200 exemptions already granted by the administration? Why is big business given another year to comply with the law, while individual citizens are told to shut up and put up? Why are some citizens exempted from having to abide by the law and others told either abide or be fined? And finally, where in the US Constitution is POTUS given the authority to arbitrarily decide which parts of a duly constituted law he will abide by and which he will not. He has been all over TV in recent days expounding on how the law was passed, signed, upheld, etc., etc., etc. and he will not negotiate its implementation, while at the same time being the only person in the country who has already decided he will do as he pleases concerning the ACA.

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drugsrus

Oct-02-13 6:36 PM

usedto, what part of - a majority of the people don't want this, and never did - is confusing??? Wait, I get it Barry says this is good - so it must be. Which way is east when I pray??

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usedtolivethere

Oct-02-13 6:00 PM

Repeating what I posted previously: The ACA was passed by Congress, signed by the President and ruled constitutional by the Supreme Court. The reason for the SCOTUS decision is irrelevant. Constitutional is constitutional. So the Republitards lost, and continue to whine and now 800,000 American citizens go without pay because the right wing wants their way. They couldn't get it through a constitutional process, so they do an end run. Screw those workers, we want what we couldn't get and tied it to a bill that is important to every American. They knew that their end run would shut down the government but did they care? Obviously not. Next up, they won't allow us to pay our bills. What a bunch!

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drugsrus

Oct-02-13 5:04 PM

wow, GetAClue, I'm sensing a bit of hostility. I'm not angry and I don't have the TV on either. The '40s would be before my time, but a neat experience. -- Are you calling Barry for answers to Pards questions???

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Pards13

Oct-02-13 5:00 PM

If you can show me where I am wrong I will be very happy to listen. I am just trying to match up with what I have.

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PleaseGetAClue

Oct-02-13 4:56 PM

And finally drugs, I notice at least one racist post by you per subject. I'm only glad you speak for such a small insignificant segment of people that it has no impact on anyone other than getting a laugh at how backward some folks still are. You should get in your time machine and go back to the 40s

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