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Meeting not about action

September 25, 2013

Worrying about whether Americans seeking advice about the national health care law will fall victims to identity theft seems to have been an afterthought for President Barack Obama....

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BillLair

Sep-28-13 5:07 PM

Ron, since there are about 100 elected offices in the county, you have not come close to your claim of "many" elected offices in the county taking lifetime health insurance with them when they leave office. You have also cherry-picked the Town of Caroga as an example of the claim you made. Your reply is closer to a campaign speech than a reply to my inquiry. The examples you cite do not include anyone that you can name who held office a "few short years" and left office with family health insurance for life.

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TiredOfTax

Sep-28-13 3:05 PM

And Dave, your statement "And I GUARANTEE YOU that they have health insurance provided by taxpayers. I guarantee." Is complete hog wash. Employer coverage... not a gov worker and am a taxpayer that has had it to here with give aways that progressives push on everyone! (or push everyone on)

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drugsrus

Sep-28-13 12:14 PM

Dave, I'm sensing a bit of hostility. Play nice

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TiredOfTax

Sep-28-13 10:36 AM

Dave I read all about you life on this message board. You put it on comments... comments happen. I have never wanted you to shut up it leads to conversions to the RIGHT side of these topics!

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DaveGibson

Sep-28-13 10:25 AM

Pards- you're correct. I didn't see the small notice above the box with the data. However, that's good news because NY's premiums are supposed to be lower than the national average.

TOT- shut up. Just shut up. You have no idea what you're talking about and prattle on and on regurgitating right wing blather, such as illegal immigrants will qualify for Obamacare. Just shut up.

And leave my personal life out of it, you petty little gossip.

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TiredOfTax

Sep-28-13 8:16 AM

Conservative Lady:

I pledge resistance , to the Czar , of the Divided States of America, and to the Communism for which it stands, One socialist , without God, divisible , with healthcare and welfare for all.

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TiredOfTax

Sep-27-13 5:59 PM

The Heritage Foundation: Obamacare mandates $716 billion in Medicare payment reductions from 2013 to 2022.[1] However, contrary to the way they are often portrayed, these cuts are not aimed at specific instances of waste, fraud, and abuse. Instead, they are across-the-board changes in Medicare payment formulas for a variety of Medicare providers, including hospitals, nursing homes, home health agencies, and hospice agencies. In addition to the provider payment reductions, Obamacare significantly reduces payments to Medicare Advantage (MA) plans by an estimated $156 billion from 2013 to 2022. Obamacare gives new powers to make additional cuts in Medicare through the Independent Payment Advisory Board. Obamacare will also cause seniors to pay higher taxes. The higher taxes on prescription drugs (effective in 2011) and medical devices (effective in 2013) will affect seniors especially.

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Pards13

Sep-27-13 5:53 PM

Dave, I just checked again and yes it is listed, all 50 states are listed. When you fill out the calculator and put NY in and press submit this is what shows up between Submit and Results..."We do not have data for the state selected. The results will show national averages." What is giving you by default are national averages. Please someone else check it.

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TiredOfTax

Sep-27-13 5:27 PM

Remember when Obama invited all the republicans to the big meeting to see if he could get an R to endorse the LIBERAL takeover called Obamacare? The all said that they needed to start over with a clean sheet of paper to get this important legislation done RIGHT. They said that there was no way that they could ever support the bill as they had written it. NOTHING has changed except now the mistake ridden bill is falling apart and is a total disaster, ever DEMOCRATS are falling off the Obamacare band wagon. It is time to defund it and stop it or at least delay implementation until we can correct all of the mistakes. It is not a fair bill for ANYONE as it stands now.

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DaveGibson

Sep-27-13 4:44 PM

Pards, I did go back to the KFF website, and NY is there. Look in the Ns, right after New Mexico. :)

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Pards13

Sep-27-13 1:58 PM

Dave, did you ever go back and check your website?

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Ron1960

Sep-27-13 8:03 AM

Bill, P.S. Yes I am running for town supervisor and should I win I will not ask the town tax payer to fund my health insurance and Also I would not take health from the county as a county supervisor because it would be costing county taxpayers, I would be there to work for the town and the county. Also I would work to get our county into one county government> We need to bring Fulton Co. into the 21 century and out of the dark ages. That is my opinion.

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Ron1960

Sep-27-13 7:55 AM

Bill, I can not give you the names of the individuals, but I will tell you the offices, for example in the town of Caroga the members of the town board, town justice, in the past the town tax collector, the budget officer. They work only part time on average 24 hours per month and after only 12 years they are eligible to get their health insurance for life for them and their family, at the expense of the Town of Caroga tax payer. Now there are other towns that have similar deals for the same offices and also some of the county supervisors have that option after only 2 or 3 terms. Hope that helps you understand.

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BillLair

Sep-26-13 4:56 PM

Ron, please list the names and offices held by the many local elected officials who work part-time and after leaving office take their health care benefits into retirement free for life after working only a few short years. You have made this claim in the past and IMO if you are to continue making it you should produce evidence of your claim. It would be interesting to know who these people are.

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Pards13

Sep-26-13 3:34 PM

Yes he is on Medicaid and his quality of life is tolerable. I would not want to trade it for anything. However when someone says quality healthcare is not available unless you have great insurance or you are wealthy I say not true. In order to educate my kids and get good healthcare I have had to make hard decisions including going without things that I treasure. Life is not easy.

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Pards13

Sep-26-13 1:56 PM

New York, and I just tried it again and where it says submit it says that state info is not there. I suggest you try again and look in that area.

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DaveGibson

Sep-26-13 1:53 PM

Oh, and about your friend, Pard, he has no income and no assets? I don't know anyone lives with no income, but the income limit for Medicaid is $750 a month. If you earn less than that, you get Medicaid. So yes, it can be done, but what about us regular people who do have jobs or retirement income?

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DaveGibson

Sep-26-13 1:47 PM

Pards, what state do you live in? I did both NY and FL and got quotes. BTW, the $1129 is the annual charge for two people.

These insurance exchanges are cutting health premiums just about everywhere. I'll tell you what I think might happen. Employers may simply cancel their company policies and send their employees to the exchanges after giving them raises to cover the cost. A friend of mine in American Samoa is waiting for the exchange rates to be published for there before making that determination, but that's where he's leaning.

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Pards13

Sep-26-13 1:05 PM

Sorry Dave but your only problem is you have assets. If you have no income and no assets you can get some of the finest health care there is. Friend of mine developed liver problems and cancer. No job, no assets. Went to Colombia Presbyterian and saw one of the leading surgeons who was willing to operate. My friend went to Albany Med they operated and he has lived another two years. Currently he is back at Albany for another stent to be put in. No insurance, no assets, no job. Don't tell me it can not be done because it has be done. If you really want no or low cost health care get rid of your assets. Dave, there really is no free lunch.

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Pards13

Sep-26-13 12:47 PM

Yukon, if you are serious feel free to leave anytime. I hear Syria nice this time of year.

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Pards13

Sep-26-13 12:11 PM

Dave, I went to the website you suggested and this is what I found."We do not have data for the state selected. The results will show national averages." That was off Kaiser Family Foundation calculator. I don't think you will get off as cheaply as you think.

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adkkev

Sep-26-13 11:50 AM

MrBob: please explain how the ACA will dictate such earnings. Health care workers aren't being paid by the government. The government isn't paying anyone for anything under the ACA, outside of tax credits that would lower the cost of the health care plan chosen. It would appear to me that insurance companies control the purse strings & would "own" health care workers.

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Pards13

Sep-26-13 11:14 AM

I hate to rain on anyone's parade however.. ACA tax credit is based on income currently. There are many people that are eligible because their income is low even though their assets are high (wealthy bums), very similar to some folks that post here. College aid, nursing home bills and others are currently based on assets and income. How long do you realistically believe big brother government is going to let this "inequity" continue? My guess is until after the election.Folks don't listen to what they say pay close attention to what they do!

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Pards13

Sep-26-13 9:33 AM

Dave, Please tell me how a silver plan cost under $1300 per year. Following those numbers my family should be able to get insurance for $5000 a year. If that is the case I will be happy to sign up. However I doubt it because all the bumblecrats are opting out.

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TiredOfTax

Sep-26-13 8:17 AM

Forbes dot com... Lost: $67 Million. If Found, Please Return To IRS Comment Now Follow Comments Hoo boy…this isn’t going to go over well.

The IRS has seen its summer from*****extended into autumn, as a report issued today by the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA) revealed that the Service cannot account for $67 million that was set aside in a slush fund to help pay for Obamacare.

I am sure that this is an isolated incident. The government is here to help you! Yeah right! Thieves in charge results in thefts... imagine!

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