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September 12, 2013

While another set of primaries has come and gone, we hope local voters will use the time until the general election Nov. 5 wisely....

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Annarondac

Sep-14-13 10:29 AM

One more point on the Mayor issue. While I am not endorsing the current one, it was the opinion of many that someone young, with fresh ideas would be the cure for what ails Gloversville? Many young people did get out and vote for him. It's not always the electorate that is to blame.

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Annarondac

Sep-14-13 10:24 AM

When the candidates for Gloversville Mayor were on Talk of the Town recently, did anyone call to ask them what their platforms were? Now that the primaries are over, get out and ask the questions you want the answers to. Demand a public forum for debate. During the last Gloversville run for mayor, a debate was held and broadcasted. It certainly was telling who was qualified and who was not. But as I said before, doing is far better than complaining. Who would want to run for office when no one has a good word for anything? If the younger voters are not getting out, find out why and correct the problem. Maybe it's just that we need better candidates to get behind.

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Ron1960

Sep-14-13 8:34 AM

Annarondac, I agree with you to a point. but more than what you suggest would be the candidates would put their plat forms out there for the general public to know. We just went through a primary and 99.9% of the candidates ever told the public what their vision for the future was. The local media failed to get this kind of information out to the general public. And when the candidates for the cities were on the radio not one of them stated what they wanted to do for their city and how they planed to get it done. If the political parties were interested in getting their candidates elected they should set up some meet the candidates meetings for their city or town. The biggest problem with getting people to vote is not the older folks it is the young people who refuse to understand that their vote does count.

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Annarondac

Sep-13-13 7:25 PM

I think AdirondacAl has a point. People will stand behind a sincere and dedicated candidate. I also think my point a few editorials ago makes sense. Instead of beating up on people and complaining that they don't vote, find out why. Help people to the polls, educate them on why their vote is important. That's how Obama did it in the last election. They got people to the polls. A good reason would be a great candidate. Maybe we should up our standards. Just sayn'.

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laker88

Sep-13-13 11:29 AM

The emphasis/importance placed on sports and movie icons should come as no surprise. The US has become an "entertainment" society, whereas countries who will likely be moving economically ahead of the US are viewed more as "educational" societies.

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Pards13

Sep-13-13 10:29 AM

I always looked at my vote is my license to complain. If you don't vote you have no right to complain about who was elected.

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LoyalSocialist

Sep-13-13 10:27 AM

It's very sad to see that the voter turnout in the primaries was extremely low, though that is pretty much the case everywhere. Since I refuse to choose a political party, I was not able to vote in any primaries where I live... maybe the undereducated citizens were confused by how primaries work in NY? Or it's because most people (especially in Gloversville) are not homeowners and lack a sense of community. I felt that lack of community when I lived there, which is one of the reasons why I left. There are so few that actually want to build that sense of community in Gloversville, while the rest of the renters and transplants worry if their next gov't check is going to be late. Unless something is done to bring educated families up that way, nothing is going to change for the better.

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MrBoB51

Sep-13-13 10:01 AM

There is an old saying: 'if a person is convinced they will die tomorrow they will find a way to make it happen'. Replace 'they will die tomorrow' with 'their vote wont count' or 'we'll only lose'. Don't let anyone else choose your destiny, candidate or outcome. Whether you win or lose you've made a difference and done your part by voting. That goes for ALL political parties concerned with the direction of local, state and federal elections. That unique power is one of many that makes each and every one of us Americans exceptional and a stinging point of jealousy to other Countries so called 'leaders'. Stick that in your borscht Putin.

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MrBoB51

Sep-13-13 9:40 AM

You're right useto, problem is the 'many' you refer to don't vote. They have been convinced that either they'll lose or their vote does not count, not realizing that by believing both, they themselves are perpetuating that myth.

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Pards13

Sep-13-13 9:38 AM

Ron I think you are on to something however it is not just sports. When people gather and the topic of conversation is what sports star acted badly, what personality got kicked of what show we all lose. The tv should be turned off, we should go out and socialize. Sit on your front porch, say hi. Do something besides cocooning in our homes. I know I am guilty of it but slowly I'm breaking the habit. Who knows we might find time to paint the house or seal the driveway.

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usedtolivethere

Sep-13-13 8:43 AM

Adirondack, you echo the sentiments of many. Why don't you run for the BOE?

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laker88

Sep-13-13 8:27 AM

Problems in our educational system will continue on and on until 1-The top decision making body in our schools(BOE'S) must have qualifications and possibly a salary. 2- we change the inequitable funding for schools. 3- the State gets out of the way...

These issues have been around for years. Unfortunately, our dysfunctional legislature is not capable of addressing these problems.

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Adirondackal

Sep-13-13 8:08 AM

Ron, the reason that the voter turnout is so low is that we have NO choice. School board elections are the best example of that. We have spouses/significant others, parents etc of school personnel as well as vendors and the like running for the position. Seldom does a fiscal conservative run. No choice. Especially true in the Gloversville mayor's race-- three tax wasters.

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usedtolivethere

Sep-13-13 7:56 AM

Ron, your opinion really dumps on sports fans. Are they really all like that? and what reference do you use to support your opinion. Just asking

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Ron1960

Sep-13-13 7:31 AM

During Lincoln's Gettysburg Address he said the Government of the people By the people and of the people should not parish from the earth. Well here in Fulton County it did parish many years ago. The elections in Fulton County generally have low turn outs and most of the time less that 35% of the registered voters. And the school elections are seldom more than 18% of the registered voters. In my opinion most people have given up on voting and getting involved in the local government in favor of SPORTS. These people who favor SPORTS send much money to attend SPORTING EVENTS and care nothing about paying the high taxes we have here and when they can not pay they find a way to get on the public dole. GOD help us.

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TiredOfTax

Sep-12-13 7:21 PM

Taxed that shows that if we cared enough we could turn the direction of our cities with modest voter turnout. The key would be to get the people needed to sway the vote without getting the "others" out to vote against you... Hmmm... maybe that is what has happened nationally?

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Taxedtoomuch

Sep-12-13 5:30 PM

The poor turnout in both cities is awful. Approx. 630 in johnstown, of which includes myself, out of a population of over 8,000. Not even 10 percent of the population. Gloversville not faring much better. Makes one wonder how many actually get out and vote in the bigger elections.

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MrBoB51

Sep-12-13 1:29 PM

Sorry, I cited the wrong poster, my apologies to both.

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MrBoB51

Sep-12-13 1:25 PM

I understand your point Anna but there are a lot of us who will have nothing to do with social media and avoid those places like the plague. Not because we cant figure it out, it's because we grew up not broadcasting every detail of our lives to anyone who'll listen, we actually TALK to people which I fear is a dying social skill. In my opinion, social media is not the way to conduct a political race. Talking and asking questions face to face is much more personal, it cant be ignored like impersonal facebook postings. I want to look the candidate in the eye, ask a question and get an answer. Maybe the low voter turnout was because nobody can vote via facebook, they actually have to unplug, get off their butts and practice the social skill of voting in person.

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Ron1960

Sep-12-13 1:12 PM

Mr. BOB, I have no problem with you bringing me in on this issue. I just wish that our local media would post all of the primary results. There some races that they did not cover like the supervisors race in Stratford and several town board races . But what can you expect from our local media. Keep up the idea of getting people out to vote this Nov.5,2013.

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Adirondackal

Sep-12-13 12:03 PM

Regarding the Gloversville mayoral race, the winner has used Facebook as a megaphone for years now, Jim Handy had a late start but mounted an effective presence towards the end and the guy who was supposed to win avoided Facebook and his website like the plague. Citizens posted questions and they remained unanswered right through the election. This was because the city GOP chairman is clueless as to how to use any and all media. ONE handout and a few ads in the paper don't cut it today.

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MrBoB51

Sep-12-13 11:22 AM

Seems like here in the Town of Mohawk we had a better turnout than both G,ville and J'town combined. If I may, Ron1960 has been very articulate regarding the need for FC voters to get off their butts and do their Civic duty to get involved and vote. In the General Election you might want to take his advice on this one. Hope you don't mind me bringing you in on this Ron but when you're right, you're right and I support your efforts to get out the vote.

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