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Gemini, rs is nothing more than poseur. He's more entertaining that irritating. Please don't let an unsophisticated amateur affect YOUR opinion. He's not worth it. On the other hand, his opinions have value too. In his constant, pathetic attempts to be relevant and compelling he comically puffs himself up only to shoot himself in the foot and let out all the hot air...kind of like 'rinse, repeat' ad nauseum.
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Dave, AARP is a useless extension of the Dem. Party that is being kept together by the FDR generation. Why else would they be sending membership applications to non-seniors, my companion is 50 and not retired. Not a week goes by where she does not receive one. I belong to AMAC, not a fossilized Dem. mouthpiece like AARP.
Dave, You should check the local benefits for the elected officials. The Board of Supervisors get health insurance after only a few years in office. the town of Caroga awards their elected officials with free health insurance for life after only 12 years of service and that also includes their spouses and children and tell me where you can get this from any private sector employer.
Ok Dave, will try...and will admit if I misjudged.
still better than mine.
That's an urban legend, Laker. If you don't believe me, visit www dot aarp dot org/work/employee-benefits/info-12-2010/benefits_what_does_congress_really_get.html
The only racket better than welfare is getting elected as a legislator for one term, then quitting and receiving a Cadillac health plan for life.
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MrBob, I used to post regularly until swizzer came on the scene and got so personal he ruined it for me. Your comments are uncanny, like reading my mind; you say it so well. Welfare is a drug that our politicians will gladly keep supplying to the addicts just to keep their cushy do-nothing jobs.
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Thank you Gemini, this Virgo appreciates your comment. Since Gemini's love to talk, you should post more often! Anyhow, it's nice to hear from you, thanks again.
Nice sob story Ron. Tell me another story about how this is MY problem. After that, spin another yarn about what YOU are doing to help this guy out that I'm not. I've managed to see to my own affairs and methinks you have too. I'll do everything, and I mean EVERYTHING it takes to rely on myself, NOT the Government nor anyone else. That's the difference between the Individual and the Collectivist. Say what you will but I will never be coerced, embarrassed, or by any other emotional ploy forced into feeling sorry for anyone who decides to rely on the Govt. and, by confiscatory taxes, me to take care of them. Charity is an entirely different matter that I wholly embrace and practice. When the Govt takes my money to give to someone else without my permission it's NOT charity, it's downright theft.
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He deserves help and I am happy to help. Some of the queens that have not figured out "where babies come from" not so much. For the able bodied guy that is walking down main st. not so much. A helping hand maybe, a lifestyle no way.
r. BoB, I see that you care nothing about helping those who really need it. A person that I know is trying to get by on $1400.00 per month, this person is trying to keep his home and his vehicle, plus pay for his health insurance pay for his heating fuel, putting food on the table. But due to age he can not get a job because most employers will not hire this person. Now this person has worked at some very hard back breaking jobs and every job this person has had only paid enough to just pay the living expenses required to keep the family together. But at age 72 with minor medical problems you believe that this person should get out and get a job, in a job market that has very few jobs. By the way this person is not getting welfare of any kind.
MrBob, You had me at "welfare moochers". I love your posts!
A guy walks into the welfare office and tells the clerk he's tired of being on welfare and wants a job, any job. The clerk tells him it just so happens that a wealthy man is looking for a chauffeur for his nymphomaniac daughter. The job requires long hours, weekends, overseas travel and keeping an eye on his daughter but the pay is very good. The guy says that's great, your not kidding me are you? The clerk says yes, but you started it.
Ron, more than a few are voting for the politician who will keep the free stuff coming,eg: "I got my Obamaphone"!! Where did you get it? "Obama"! Where did he get the money from? "I dunno, his stash"!!! There you have it, hand outs to people who don't know or care where it comes from as long as its 'free'. When the moochers can make more money taking it from others than they can sweeping a floor for minimum wage then why work? So what are businesses to do, pay people with little to no marketable skills more than welfare pays for doing nothing???? They're on hard times?? Cry me a friggin river will ya. These professional moochers and their enablers are making MY life harder but does that count? NOOOOO.
funny that most of those here that want to eliminate the welfare system because they believe that those who are getting it are just lain lazy. Agree that in a small amount of cases that is true. But I bet that none of these people have never been on hard times and needed help or knew anyone that really needed. You can talk all you want about getting a better education to earn a better pay well maybe you should look at what it cost to get that better education and then why is it that when you have the education for the job and the employer wants you to have experience. Then the people with the experience the employer claims it is not recent enough. So why do we need the education for a job sweeping the floor when we elect people to elected office with no idea what the job they are trying to get is.
you can talk about getting
I can agree with almost every post here maybe there is room for compromise ... Can't believe it we are on the same page
Additionally dave, funding your social programs at a State level only means instead of picking my right pocket, the 'State' will just grab me by the ankles, turn me upside down and shake me for whats left. No thanks, get rid of these taxpayer money-sucking 'social programs' once and for all.
Well folks, if you don't want an entry-level minimum wage job get an education, skills, drive, ambition and quit insisting you get top dollar for a job that requires no skills or abilities other than to show up for work. Want to be paid what you think you're worth? Get off your butt and become worthy of your demands. The key word here is YOU, not Walmart, or anybody else. In case nobody ever told you, people are in business to make money, not to provide you a cushy wage, benefits on demand or lots of time off unless you have the skills to make YOU worth it. YOU are your own 'market' and if your 'low priced' it's your own fault. Dave, was there a question in your pompous rhetoric? I didn't think so, just more nebulous 'congressional studies' you like to throw out that are meaningless. 'Crass' does not even begin to describe the disgust I have at being forced to give my hard earned retirement money to...yeah, welfare moochers.
Mayor King after winning the primary says: "It's really my ability to communicate with people," the mayor said.
He said he thinks taxes will go down in the city next year as his administration also tries to bring more jobs to the area. He said he aims to forge a stronger relationship with the city of Johnstown and expressed a desire to have the Gloversville mayor serve on the Fulton County Board of Supervisors. "He thinks", what is he doing to make it happen?
If walmart was not here what would the "helping hand tax bill" be? What would the overall effect on Fulton County? I don't know the answer anymore than you but I would bet you a cup of coffee that it is a lot more than 900k. Stop with the union line of ____. The businesses that were chased out by Walmart were in trouble before WM came and would have folded before long.
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The "moocher class" MrBob? That's a pretty crass opinion of folks who need a helping hand. What you're inferring is that those on public assistance are lazy bums who could work but chose not to. While I'm sure there's a few in there, the majority of those receiving benefits do so for three years or less before moving off the dole.
Ron is right on about companies like Walmart who underpay their employees. That Super Walmart will cost local taxpayers $900k a year in social assistance programs so their employees can feed their families (according to a congressional study). These folks are just trying to get by and are not "moochers".
I don't mind my local tax dollars going to those in need. However, I firmly believe that social programs should not be funded at the county level. That's too heavy a burden on poor counties like Fulton County. They should be funded at the state level. Our local state politicians should be raising the roof over this until it cha
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Mr. BOB, I agree with you about the welfare rolls to a point. If employers such as Wal-Mart paid their employees a good wage that would not make most of their employees eligible for social services benefits. Local governments give these large employers good tax breaks and then the employer pays its employees so little that most of them are eligible for social services benefits, so the combination of tax breaks for the large wealthy employers and the fact that they pay their employees so little are a big reason why our property taxes are so high.
By the way yukon, you do realize those unfunded mandates you mentioned getting rid of are ALL welfare give-aways that cost this Senior $.56 of every property tax dollar I pay, right? I agree, lets get rid of ALL unfunded mandates, its not fair that we Seniors have to foot the bill for the moocher class. Additionally, if only parents of school age children pay the School taxes and get it off the shoulders of us Seniors you can bet the crappy education of our children would end quickly.
STOP giving Wal Mart and any other businesses tax breaks while the elderly and working middle class continue to lose savings and homes because of tax breaks given to the RICH businesses. That's a pretty heroic assumption yukon. Can you prove that's the reason and not the myriad of 'Social' program give-aways and the constantly escalating property/school taxes? That's the reason we lose our houses. As a Senior Citizen I do not see tax breaks to the 'rich' business's affecting my finances even a little, but what does is paying the County to 'rent' my own property with the threat of eviction and the arbitrary 'rent increases' every friggin year. The 'rich' you should be complaining about is the greedy Fed, State and local Governments.
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