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Cheers and jeers

August 31, 2013

JEERS — To not taking a vote. There may be no study on building a highway from Thruway Exit 28 in Fultonville to Route 30A near the Johnstown Industrial Park....

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Knickman

Aug-31-13 6:19 AM

"Jeers to not taking a vote", might also be titled " Jeers to selfishness". Montgomery county officials had the power to stop a project that would help access Fulton county for commercial, industrial and tourism purposes. For the most part, they offered safety concerns as an excuse. Aren't there safety concerns about the current highway arrangement?

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Ron1960

Aug-31-13 7:14 AM

As to the highway study why should we need to hire an out of area to do that study when both counties have engineers who know more about the local area than the out of area company does. Secondly do any of you that want this highway built have any remote what it would cost to build that highway, people in Fulton Co. complain about their taxes now, build that new highway and then you would have something to really complain.

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Ron1960

Aug-31-13 7:18 AM

As to those fools who were arrested for what they are accused of doing to that poor puppy they are lucky that the police have them instead of me. When I got through with them they would be need of medical help. There is no reason for anyone to treat an animal like that. Those two are sick, heartless fools, in my opinion.

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Ron1960

Aug-31-13 7:23 AM

I see that the city of Johnstown is not willing to put any effort or money into getting the RAIL TRAIL finished, but they are ready, willing and able to let the county tax payers pay for it. Just like they did with the Wal-Mart Distribution center. this is one great reason why this county should have only one county wide government. In my opinion.

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Adirondackal

Aug-31-13 7:49 AM

How long will it take the learned scribes and citizens to understand that the confiscatory property tax rates in New York State lead to this sort of geographical selfishness. To continue to write of the greater community when small municipalities are paying for these grandiose regional planning schemes is purely negligent. For example as a Gloversville taxpayer I am sick and tired of funding county wide transit services.

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MrBoB51

Aug-31-13 8:05 AM

Note to LH: This whole proposal is based on 'conjecture' otherwise there would be no need for a study. The MC Supervisors LISTENED to their constituents, THAT'S THEIR JOB!!!! That's how our Charter Govt. works. The PEOPLE decide, not the politicians in a back room, not the media pushing an agenda and most certainly not hype.

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MrBoB51

Aug-31-13 8:11 AM

I believe Ron understands this concept, FC taxpayers should take his advice and move to a vastly more participatory form of County Govt..

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TiredOfTax

Aug-31-13 9:19 AM

JEERS to Obama's continued balking! John Kerry is acting more like a president than Obama is. He has detailed the why and how the Assad regime perpetrated the chemical attack. He went to members of congress (all democrats by the way) and asked how they thought the president should respond, Kerry pushed back on lawmakers, including House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, who urged the administration to retaliate without offering a specific plan that they would support. He really put it back on the members well. When he asked Pelosi what she suggested doing, she literally stuttered. Now there is solid leadership... and Obama the only thing he passes judgment on are the racist acts that he always comments on within minutes. Do not hold your breath on Obama's decision even if he spoke stupidly about that red line!

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TheArchitect

Aug-31-13 11:53 AM

The proposed connector road would certainly benefit Fulton County (if it was built, and this will not occur since the costs far exceed the benefits). Montgomery County's lack of support is appropriate; however, since the proposed project has no benefit to Montgomery County and actually would divert potential economic development projects from Montogmery County where roadway infrastructure already exists with several Thruway interchanges in the county.

It was refreshing to see elected officals listen to their constituients. This doesn't occur too often and should be a new model for Montgomery County. Fulton County can only hope that their elected offical would begin to serve their constituients for a change. The failing region cannot continue the back door politics that have existed for decades.

Elect no incumbents this fall!

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Hilltopper

Aug-31-13 12:26 PM

Jeers to printing errors that resulted in botching 1.1 billion new "Benjamins" at a cost of $120 million to the taxpayers.

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Knickman

Aug-31-13 1:10 PM

Architect: Your reply proves my point: It is selfishness. Montgomery county is lucky to have 3 interchanges off of an interstate, yes you can get to Fulton county, but the current highways are all "bottlenecks." You either got to go through Canajoharie, Fonda-Fultonville or Amsterdam. I don't see where such a highway would hurt Montgomery county. It would probably be a break even situation.

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Knickman

Aug-31-13 1:13 PM

It should also be remembered that many of these businesses in Fulton county employ people from Montgomery county and vise- versa. The region would benefit overall. We don't need another turf war like went on about the recently opened Wal-Mart store in Gloversville.

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Knickman

Aug-31-13 1:16 PM

When the industrial park was opened on 30A just below Johnstown, it was in Fulton county but in the Fonda-Fultonville School district which got a boost in their tax base, so there was some benefit to a portion of Montgomery county.

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maxone

Aug-31-13 5:04 PM

Cheers on the arrest of the douche-bags who starved that innocent creature ... I hope they sit in jail for a long time and get sterilized before release.. ( people like this should NOT procreate ) also a lifetime ban on owning any animal ..

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Hilltopper

Aug-31-13 6:43 PM

Montgomery County has three interchanges, that's why all the Industrial Parks should have been sited there. If you think common sense equates to selfishness, you can jump in any one of Fulton County's 44 lakes. Montgomery County doesn't have any. Should we ask Fulton County to help us build a dam.

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Knickman

Aug-31-13 9:15 PM

Well Hilltopper, Montgomery co. could have had a lake years ago as part of that Okwari park that the state wanted to build years ago but the people did not want it. Both counties have industrial parks, but wouldn't you rather not see valuable and very productive farm land in Montgomery county taken for an industrial park. Lets be regional, reasonable and not confrontational.

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TheArchitect

Aug-31-13 10:44 PM

"Knickman" if Fulton County's economic development efforts can justify the spending of $250 million (plus or minus) for the construction of new transportation infrastructure (a connector roadway to the NYS Thruway), then let the private sector developers foot the bill. This is not something that should be funded by the public through higher taxes.

Economic development is a business that NY state does not fair very well in, resulting in woefully high property taxes and low property values. The continued failure of Fulton County’s failed “economic development” efforts (and this is a oxymoron) have resulted in very limited public benefits, with major benefits for the inner circle players. The millions that Bray and Sciocchetti, Dorfman-Robbie, John Olsen, the Bonadio Group, and many others have unjustifiably pilfered from Fulton County with nothing positive for Fulton County is example enough.

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Hilltopper

Aug-31-13 11:02 PM

Give your pep talk to Mayor Sarah and the keepers of the FC solid waste facility. I would certainly rather see MC Industrial sites, right off the thruway, filled to capacity without clogging the roadways. It is a far better scenario than confiscating valuable land in the Town of Mohawk, taking it off the tax rolls, and using it for a connector highway.

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Knickman

Sep-01-13 7:45 AM

I think that we are all forgetting that this was to be a study to see if such a connector highway be practical and useful. Not the actual building of the connector. It would be interesting to see if NYSDOT could or would get involved directly and bypass the counties for a study.

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TiredOfTax

Sep-01-13 7:54 AM

JEERS to another way to place the blame! The president, in a surprise decision Saturday, announced he would seek a vote in Congress on launching a military attack against the Assad regime. One senior State Department official, though, told FOX NEWS that the president’s goal to take military action will indeed be carried out, regardless of whether Congress votes to approve the use of force.

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MrBoB51

Sep-01-13 8:51 AM

Knickman, we've already seen productive farmland taken in MC and used for an Ind. Development site. Its called Glen Canal View Ind. Park, in sight of Exit 26 and it is EMPTY. "Use it up, wear it out, make it do or DO WITHOUT".

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Hilltopper

Sep-01-13 11:11 AM

Knickman: NYS had nothing to do with Okwari Park. It was the brain child of Glenn Mathison, Mont. Co. Planner. It was as much of a pie in the sky then as the connector highway is now. Home rule in the south central Montgomery County nixed that scheme, just as Montgomery County supervisors are doing now.

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Knickman

Sep-01-13 11:23 AM

I guess there is no need to carry this any farther. Its not going to happen. One of these days, Montgomery county is going to want a favor from Fulton county and I am sure Fulton county officials will remember this incident.

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Hilltopper

Sep-01-13 11:38 AM

I doubt it. They already forgot about the Bray and Sciochetti incident.

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usedtolivethere

Sep-02-13 7:29 AM

So...what did Bush win?

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