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No reason for return to Iraq

August 28, 2013

Forty-six people were killed in Iraq on Sunday, as it becomes clearer and clearer the U.S. strategy to pacify that country was a dismal, bloody, expensive failure....

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Taxedtoomuch

Aug-28-13 11:19 AM

Stay out of Iraq and stay out of Syria. We cannot afford the cost in American lives or funds. Our deficit is to high now and the people hate us in the end. We as Americans would not want interference in our internal affairs by other nations. So why do we think our meddling in the affairs of nations is OK??? There would be less acts of terrorism and hatred of Americans if we minded our own business and did not judge other cultures and religions while attempting to push our lifestyle and beliefs on others when it is not wanted.

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MrBoB51

Aug-28-13 12:36 PM

Well taxed, I judge the cultural rot known as islam a cult not worthy of the term Religion. If you are saying they are not worth our time, energy and sacrifice you're right. I'm satisfied to sit back and watch the Arab Middle East blow itself out of existence without Americas help or hindrance.

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rschweizer

Aug-28-13 1:25 PM

No reason to return to Iraq and we long overstood our welcome after Hussein's removal whenever that was. And especially since we never 'found' anything there.

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rschweizer

Aug-28-13 1:33 PM

And on another note: looks like the Republicans are gettng their way since we're on to bomb Syria beginning Thursday.

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rschweizer

Aug-28-13 1:42 PM

Taxedtoomuch, we didn't have any proof as a means for invading Iraq. But we did anyway, and it cost us an untold amount of money. Money we're still paying back.

That's not really the case at all here. We see pictures of mass graves, thousands of people fleeing into neighboring countries as refugees, and not to mention the first-hand accounts of kidnapped journalists, which crosses all lines.

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TiredOfTax

Aug-28-13 1:53 PM

What is clear is that this administration here in the USA has lost every bit of what was won Under Bush. He has taken the agony of defeat from the jaws of victory and has repeated that same idea throughout his presidency! We are far less safe thanks to the inadequacies of the Obama administration. All of those American and allied lives lost and for what? A cut and run president... Impeachment should be admonitory.

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TiredOfTax

Aug-28-13 1:55 PM

*mandatory* Auto correct denied!

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rschweizer

Aug-28-13 2:17 PM

TiredOfTax, I'm going to sit back, prop up my feet, crack open a cold crappy American beer since I can't find a Stella anywhere locally, and wait for your reply that includes exactly what was 'won' under George W. Bush.

I'm not looking for a Bush v. Obama debate, I just want your opinion.

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TiredOfTax

Aug-28-13 5:34 PM

We had every one of the reasons before invading Iraq that you had listed below, PLUS a host of UN sanctions, eyewitness accounts of WMD, and DEMOCRAT APPROVAL all prior to the invasion.

That's not really the case at all here. We see pictures of mass graves, thousands of people fleeing into neighboring countries as refugees, and not to mention the first-hand accounts of kidnapped journalists, which crosses all lines.

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TiredOfTax

Aug-28-13 5:40 PM

You do not remember the pictures of the Iraqi people lying dead in the streets after chemical Al attacked a village with saran gas? You do not remember seeing Saddam himself shoot people in the back of their head while kneeling in a soccer stadium? You do not remember his invading neighboring countries? Maybe you should have yourself medically checked out... dementia?? Alzheimer's?

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TiredOfTax

Aug-28-13 5:45 PM

I believe that Iraq was as close to being a free, democratic and violence free as it has ever been before Obama's early withdrawal plan. I believe that the progressive hate for GWB was so great that they wanted him to fail even if it meant failure of the missions he represented and supported. I believe that the economy was ruined by the negativity that progressives put on every single thing that President Bush did... you know someones else's fault like Obama subscribes to!

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drugsrus

Aug-28-13 5:45 PM

swizzer your BFF Barry's apology tour cost the US way too much in respect. As much as we all hate the thought of war, the US needs to make the next military move short and surly decisive - We have the power, we just need to use it. You don't play games or war to hope for a tie, you don't go into a fight hoping for a decision by the judges in your favor. Your goal is to win by KO by the end of the first round. Our military needs that kind of support from the leadership, or don't go at all.

Next question

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TiredOfTax

Aug-28-13 9:04 PM

Now can you tell me why the daily report on the national debt has gone unchanged for over 100 days even though we are spending more than we are taking in? Is this a new Obama math plan? It may work as well as Michele's school lunch plan... you know the one that nobody wants to eat?

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Taxedtoomuch

Aug-28-13 9:49 PM

Devil's advocate, they use chemical weapons in an attempt to put down a revolution(whether we agree with either side or not) in their nation. We used Nuclear Weapons to end a war. Innocent men women and children killed in both instances(many more by our nukes). Where is the true difference in the two acts? Let them solve their own problems. If we believe that we need to protect the innocent, then let's start at home. Good jobs, fix the debt, feed out hungry and house our homeless. Then help the rest of the world.

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MrBoB51

Aug-28-13 10:31 PM

Rs, Hussain gassed his own people, the Kurds. If its good enough proof for you in Syria why is it not good enough proof in Iraq?? Oh yeah, Republicans and Bush. Nice work, you managed to throw in two of the four liberal blaming points into one comment. Too bad you couldn't find a way to throw in the other two, racism and global warming. We didn't have any proof obama was qualified to lead America either. We elected him anyway. He has cost us trillions in debt that our children and grandchildren will have to pay. Do you think that's ok because hes a democrat?

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rschweizer

Aug-28-13 10:39 PM

MrBoB51, I know what Saddam Hussein was accused of doing. And that was the reason for the FIRST American invasion of Iraq in the early 90's in addition to their invading Kuwait.

The SECOND invasion was supposed to have been because of weapons of mass destruction, which never existed. It was fake, Bob.

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TiredOfTax

Aug-29-13 7:24 AM

RS, do you read the posts or just guess what and who said what? Your replies never ever address the poster your comments should be directed to.

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usedtolivethere

Aug-29-13 7:56 AM

So what was it that Bush "won"?

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yukonjack

Aug-29-13 9:16 AM

There is NO reason for the US to go to Syria...People in this country hate each other why meddle yet again in a useless endeavor where NOTHING is won or accomplished....?because the country is a military complex of a corporate dictatorship..We build too many weapons and have a economy they needs to keep working unfortunately our economy is made up of a large number of working military civilians.The Obama haters will never adnmit how bad Dubya screwed this country.They don't have the mental capacity to put country ahead of party..And for the crybabies.(GOP supporters).If you think that is a personnel attack TOUGH! Deal with it!

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yukonjack

Aug-29-13 9:18 AM

@usedtolivehere......AWOL.Dubya got to dress up as commander on a boat and scream Mission accomplished...

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Pards13

Aug-29-13 10:10 AM

sticks and stones will break my.....

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MrBoB51

Aug-29-13 11:11 AM

....Yukon pins the 'Bush's fault' meter!!! No yukon, that was a character attack not a personal attack. But, then again, liberals think attacking their ideology IS a personal attack. Let me give you an example; Being a Constitutional Individualist, I have yet to experience a character attack. Doing so would only diminish the attacker and reveal their alignment to progressivism. Directly attacking the concept of individual responsibility is like shouting from the rooftop "Hey look me! Look at the a-hole"!! Some liberals realize this and freely attack my personal opinions. That's fine with me as it fosters conversation and allows me to reveal MY character AND the attackers bitter character with the only response being more personal attacks.

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BEREAL64

Aug-29-13 11:34 AM

Oh TOT, there you go again. The Democrats voted for the invasion of Iraq because of the false information provided by George and Dicky. There were no WMD's and they didn't do a Bugs Bunny tunneling to Syria. You scream about impeachment of Obama over miniscule technicalities and justify “gains” in a no-win war that started based on intentionally misleading information. Also, let's not forget the misleading price tag first quoted for that war and who profited from that misinformation. Keep spinning, if you say something stupid enough times there are idiots that will believe it eventually – that’s what Fox News is all about.

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MrBoB51

Aug-29-13 11:42 AM

Once again rs, you demonstrate your continued lack of knowledge concerning current events with the idiotic statement 'Looks like Republicans are going to get their way' as in bombing Syria.Blame Republicans as usual, can't help it can you? That's your uninformed opinion as no one else in the media or anywhere has suggested such a thing. In the House 98 R's and 18 D's signed a letter demanding that obama seek Congressional Authorization for ANY military action against Syria. Obama painted himself in the corner with his 'red line' remark last year. Since you don't keep up with events you probably don't know about that either or dismiss it as republican talking points. Pity you're so ideologically bound and uninformed, that is of course your choice. so keep posting your fairy tales, if nothing else, they're entertaining. By the way, have you found out how to get your reputation and credibility back yet??? A good start would be to quit making things up and believing your own hype.

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MrBoB51

Aug-29-13 11:52 AM

No bereal, right or wrong that info was provided by every intelligence agency in the world and the UN. "Keep spinning, if you say something stupid enough times there are idiots that will believe it eventually". Yup, and YOU did. BWAHAHAHAHA

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