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Speak up about blight

August 25, 2013

When people see a dilapidated building that is an eyesore in their neighborhood, it is common to hear them say, “How did it get this bad?” Often, the answer is people ignored the problem....

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Ron1960

Aug-25-13 12:14 PM

I agree that blight is a problem and needs to be addressed. How ever are there properties that fall into disrepair because the people who own and owned the property for years can no longer afford to do the repairs. Are these people not getting enough social security to be able to afford the repairs. People need to remember that some of these home owners worked many years to buy their homes and maintain them but because of the wages they were able to earn and what the employers were paying just did not give the worker enough to put money away for their retirement and many of the older citizens did not have pensions. So where are these people supposed to get the money to afford the needed repairs?

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Stackrat

Aug-25-13 4:02 PM

When you take on the responsibility of owning property, your OBLIGATED to its upkeep. No excuses! Its a rather simple concept, which seems to have been lost here in FC. Other wise, sell your property, and get an apartment.

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TheArchitect

Aug-25-13 8:26 PM

Gloversville resident's should have no concerns regarding blight since this is Mayor King's centerpiece of his re-election platform. Evidence has shown the tremendous strides Mayor King has made during his tenure as Mayor. For 4 years under King's watch, his part-time job as an absentee Mayor has resulted in the blight problem getting worse each year with no efforts put forward to address the problem. Rest assurred that King will do something with blight if he is re-elected. What a joke.

The time has come for Gloversville residents to end the King follies.

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DaveGibson

Aug-25-13 9:47 PM

I agree, Ron. But also consider two elderly people living on social security and a small pension. The husband dies, cutting the widow's income almost in half. How does she pay her property taxes?

Now to get a little off subject- property taxes are the worst form of taxation, in my opinion. I'd like to see property taxes abolished and replaced with income taxes. That way, the widow gets to keep her house, or the guy who was laid off from a good job, or the lady who was injured in an accident and can no longer work.

End property taxes, along with all the expense of administering them; tax assessors, tax billing, NYS Department of Real Property, billing, grievances, etc.

That should make Fulton County attractive to developers as well.

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MrBoB51

Aug-26-13 7:10 AM

Dave you're comment on property taxes is not at all off topic and I happen to agree with you. Why should seniors have to pay at least 50% of their property taxes to the Welfare system, or into the School system? There should be an age or income cut off, they have already paid their 'dues'.

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Ron1960

Aug-26-13 8:54 AM

Stackrat, Understand your position. Unfortunately that you can not understand the real world we all must live in. Tell us what you will do should you lose your job because of nothing you did and are not able to get another job right away, what about if you should be involved in a bad accident and could not work, when everything you have saved for that rain day is been used for unexpected medical conditions.

Then you need to understand that there are times when you an not get your property sold due to economic conditions, just take a real look around this local area or talk to a real estate agent and see how many properties are and have been up for sale for more than a year. You younger people need to wake up and start to understand the real world we all liver in.

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Pards13

Aug-26-13 9:50 AM

The old and the sick probably have an excuse. I do see a lot of able bodied individual that could participate in a habitat for humanity like program to help those individual maintain and repair their home. the work done would not take away from the home repair industry as it would not be done anyway. Skills would be learned by kids and adults who are currently unemployed. Seems to me a win win situation.

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MrBoB51

Aug-26-13 1:31 PM

"You younger people need to wake up and start to understand the real world we all liver in". Great statement Ron. There are 2 problems though. 'Understand' and 'real world'. Most were never taught what either of those words mean.

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MrBoB51

Aug-26-13 1:43 PM

I may be mistaken but it seems to me that this article advocates a mob-type mentality, in that nothing seems to get done without a group of neighbors complaining. What if that group suddenly doesn't like your siding or roof color. Or your dirt driveway, or windows? Or heavens forbid an American flag? Why did that family on 5th. Ave remove the gun from the soldiers statue? Somebody afraid he'll shoot somebody with a wooden gun? Or was it for what the statue stands for. If anybody wants to live in a Gated Homeowners Assc. with personal property regulations and restrictions beyond Community codes and regs. then do so.

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Pards13

Aug-26-13 1:57 PM

True enough. However your right to neglect your home ends when it impacts my property value. That family bought that statue because they had family in the armed forces and replaced the gun with a American Flag. Why the flag is no longer there I don't know, but then that is their business. If you want to live in a rat trap go live in the woods.

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TiredOfTax

Aug-26-13 1:59 PM

MrBob, the property tax as well as the school tax problem is real but it is the very same mentality as the health insurance mal-reform. It is those that do not use it that funds it for the ones that need it. The problem isn't really the taxation for these services it is the outrageously over price for the per person use that is the problem. If they spent smartly, spent as much time finding less expensive and more frugal ways to do them, the taxes could go down. Not unlike Obamacare forcing kids to buy health insurance old people are paying for schools they do not need. If you are going to spend... someone has to pay!

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Annarondac

Aug-26-13 3:29 PM

I went by that house on Fifth Avenue today and saw most of the statues were down. Was this the result of people being offended? If it is, then Bob is right, we've lost our freedom.

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TiredOfTax

Aug-26-13 5:49 PM

Hey Bob... I do hope that they learned the liver in part though! I laughed hard when you listed the two problems... I thought that you had progressive rule #44 in mind!

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Stackrat

Aug-26-13 8:26 PM

Younger people huh? Your assumption is incorrect. Why then are other municipalities able to tackle this problem? In my 50 years on this planet, I've never experienced such a state of filth! I for one would like to sell my home, but am unable to, due to the ragged condition of many of the properties on my block. None of which are owned by the people to which you refer. So using your logic, I should let my property fall into disrepair because I cant sell, right?

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MrBoB51

Aug-27-13 7:12 AM

Yup TOT, I did.

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MrBoB51

Aug-27-13 8:17 AM

Stack, it's quite a dilemma. The market dictates the value of your property and does take in consideration the property values around you. Logic suggests you should have sold when you first noticed the problems surrounding you. You waited too long and allowed other property owners to dictate your property's value. Risk takes on many forms, property is one of them.

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Stackrat

Aug-27-13 8:41 AM

Bob, agreed. I accept the risk, just like I accept the obligations as well. I am not concerned with value at this point. Getting out is my highest priority.

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PleaseGetAClue

Aug-27-13 2:22 PM

Ireland was hit hard by the recession. BUT, If you travel there you will notice that every little town is clean and tidy and residents take pride in keeping it that way. That may be a key, taking pride in what is yours and helping those who need help keeping properties up. They actually have a contest there in Ireland for the prettiest towns and worst towns and from what I saw, no one wants to be on the list of dirtiest towns. There is a pride factor you just don't see here.

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InIreland

Aug-28-13 2:44 AM

I agree with PleaseGetAClue. Ireland calls it “Tidy Town”. Locals in each village volunteer to work on projects in the villages. Some plant flower beds, some paint vacant buildings but everyone takes pride in making their village the prettiest. I see these people working tirelessly every weekend and some during the week.I often see an elderly woman just pulling weeks along public property. It appears to be a very coordinated effort. We don’t seem to have that same pride in the states to adopt a program like this.

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Ron1960

Aug-28-13 7:08 AM

InIreland, Back in the early years this country has much pride in their properties. And you could leave your home to go to a store and your neighbors would take care of your property and should if something should happen that would mean a building needed rebuilding and repair the neighbors would all join together and get the job done. But in the last 10 to 20 plus years the attitude in this country has become hip hip hurray for me and to*****with every one else, No one cares about any body except themselves that attitude is destroying this country and these young wiper snappers can not understand that.

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Stackrat

Aug-28-13 9:10 AM

Again, I see very few cases where seniors or disabled folks need help. Mostly it is lazy, white trash scumbums from the "I can do whatever I want" generation.

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