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Low turnout unfortunate

May 26, 2013

About 750 people turned out to vote in the Gloversville Enlarged School District budget vote and school board elections Tuesday....

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May-26-13 9:21 AM

School boards have become useless and obsolete..Boards filled with ex teachers,employees of a school district or family members of the above mentioned render todays boards unfavorable to the tax payer..HUGE conflicts of interest arise yet we have not seen ONE board member or members dis qualify themselves from voting on issues directly related to their personnel connection to the district.The majority of budget matters are mandated..The work of boards can be accomplished by local county and or city councils.This may not bring more voters out by would potentially reduce and eliminate the conflict of interest these boards ignore.

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May-26-13 9:25 AM

...and only 830 people turned out to vote in the Broadalbin Perth budget vote. It makes one wonder, is it that people don't care or have they just given up? Despite what peope want, those in charge do what they want.

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May-26-13 9:32 AM

Could be a lot of people are waiting for the opportunity to give the Teachers Union the boot and give back the over 80% of our property tax money that goes to their inflated salaries and benefits. We can't stretch the remaining 15 or so percent any further and everybody knows it. Add to that most districts are at the tax cap as are most of the municipalities. So what happens next?

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May-26-13 9:39 AM

Our school districts should be like that of many southern states. Schools are operated at the county or city level, or with a group of counties in some cases. This probably could help reduce the operational costs somewhat. As far as turnouts for votes are concerned, low numbers are nothing new. But the yes/no ratio of the vote probably represents the overall feelings of the districts whole population.

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May-26-13 9:43 AM

The low turnout is simply normal here in Gloversville. But I doubt that the outcome would be any other than it was with only a few voters. We have a very large population of needers now, they along with the do gooders will now mandate everything that they want and it will pass. Sometimes you may surprise them with a defeat but it is never long lasting. They just put the same numbers up and round up the yeah voters and they are right back on easy street. It is truly any wonder that Gloversville leads all with the highest taxation rate?

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May-26-13 9:49 AM

The process is greatly flawed. As an owner of many properties in many regional districts, I am only able to vote in my district of residency, but have to pay taxes in the remaining districts where I am unable to participate in the process. There can be no better example of this than in the Wheelerville district. Many prominent people own high value lake homes, but are unable to vote in the budget process since these are not their properties of residency. The result, 1 of the highest per student spending in the state.

Regionally, the problem is exacerbated by the poor performance of the districts. While a given district may be able to claim some sort of kudos for being perceieved as "better" than a nearby district, as a whole, the regions public schools continue to fail at their mission. This all while continuing to increase their spending.

To any family that can possibly afford to send their kids to a private school, do so. The benifits far exceed the costs.

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May-26-13 9:49 AM hit the nail on the head! Look at the make up of Johnstown's School Board. Great people but the majority are former teachers or family of JHS or work for other districts. Do get me wrong they are great people, but to me it is a big conflict of interest to be working on teachers & retired teachers contracts and then vote on them. I'm not saying they aren't as far as you and I, but it rally makes you wonder and have to question what type of contracts are being signed off on.

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May-26-13 10:41 AM

TheArchitect is correct. I cannot vote in the Gloversville School District where my taxes are the highest in the United States. Our state of residency is one of the highest taxed states, but property taxes in New York beat all states. In addition, those who cannot sell their property in New York State will rent, possibly leading to less resident participation. It would be fair if school taxes were not the sole obligation of property owners, but all who use the system.

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May-26-13 10:50 AM

TheArchitect, very true a non resident taxpayer gets no voice but a welfare recipient who simply is a resident can vote away! Isn't this along the line of taxation without representation? Fairness, nope.

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May-26-13 11:38 AM

Too bad voters don't get the opportunity to direct more of the NYS Lottery coffers towards the purpose it was designed for when we got to vote for it. Instead, a good portion goes towards remodeling betting parlors and huge un-warranted mega million prizes. Seems like the promised "educational purposes" have shifted towards the usual greed our lawmakers are so good at directing towards themselves. Let us vote on where all the money goes for the benefit of our kids.

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May-26-13 1:12 PM

After reading the letter to the editor from BRUCE H. BUSCH, i agree, you win but Gloversville still has a hand in your higher tax rate!

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May-26-13 5:54 PM

Sorry I didnt get your salute LH (not really}. I had to work another 12 hour day, in another county, so I could pay my ridiculously high school taxes that I voted down last time. All this so I can live in a house that I cant sell, next door to several welfare frauds. Salute this!

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May-26-13 9:53 PM

I have nothing against gay marriages, but it seems that the gross flaws in education funding as mentioned here would take precedence over the gay marriage issue. But the NYS legislature obviously didn't think so.

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May-27-13 7:27 AM

What if when the taxes are due we pay what we paid last year and don't pay the increase because we can't afford the increase.That way they can't say we didn't pay our taxes.We should do this with city and county taxes.

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May-27-13 7:59 AM

Why don't any of you dissatisfied people that live in Gloversville get on the school board instead of expressing your frustration here?

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May-27-13 8:31 AM

My frustration comes from paying taxes to a bunch of crooked liberal politicians. My children are out of the house, and I have no interest in serving on a dysfunctional board. I do however, have a lovely four bedroom for sale.

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May-27-13 9:24 AM

Why bother? Vote it down and they shove a slightly smaller increase down our throats...

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