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Historian appreciated

May 19, 2013

Peter Betz has provided a great service as Fulton County historian. The former Fulton-Montgomery Community College educator is highly respected and appreciated....

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TiredOfTax

May-24-13 9:09 AM

I do hereby stand and applaud THOMAS W. SUYDAM. Excellent letter to the editor! Waste of time and money all the way and these are the smartest people?

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rschweizer

May-23-13 2:33 PM

TiredOfTax, of course he's not guilty. And there should be a respect for the color of law here; but I think there is a lot more to the story here than meets the eye. Take it to trial and let the facts be heard. He'll have to testify, as will witnesses.

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TiredOfTax

May-23-13 1:55 PM

RS for the last time, he is not guilty until he is proven to be so. I believe that there are other reasons to have this in the public eye, usually a politically motivated one? Any ideas what those might be?

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taxtired

May-22-13 5:03 PM

Maybe he just borrowed it. After all it is county property and he works for the county. Why should the tax payers buy the D.A. an expensive coffee pot in the first place. And the coffee to go with it.

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rschweizer

May-22-13 1:53 PM

And if this guy wants to gain back my trust, we should demand that he save some face and the embarassment of a trial where all the facts will be laid out and instead just 'fess up to it. Admit he stole it so we can all move on from this 'petty crime'.

THAT would take some nerve and would instantly regain respect. Standing in front of a group of people who elected or appointed him.

How many government leaders 'fess like that these days? Where's the accountability gone?

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rschweizer

May-22-13 1:40 PM

usedtolivethere, there are varying degrees of a crime, that I understand. But the issue MrBob and others seem to have, and it seems endemic in small-town politics, is that it's okay to turn an eye to 'petty crimes' and focus only on the larger ones, which may actually incentivize others to steal $125 coffeemakers knowing they will be forgiven, especially consering it's okay since one guy took $10,000. That's my gripe.

I understand allegedly stealing a $125 coffeemaker isn't a big deal to most; but what about trust in not doing it again? or if it hasn't happened already before then? Where do you draw the line?

And then that threshhold continues to increase, in that the more serious crimes prevail means the less serious ones are acceptable.

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usedtolivethere

May-22-13 8:35 AM

rs, if a crime is a crime is a crime, why are there felonies, misdemeanors, and violations?

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rschweizer

May-21-13 11:13 PM

MrBob, 'quiet on the important stuff '...

No, YOU keep ignoring the important stuff and inserting nonsensical interference.

Once again: you CONTINUE to ignore the 'important' issue, and that is that you want to turn a blind eye to a guy who allegedly stole a $125 coffeemaker just because his crime is of a lesser value than others' alleged crimes.

A crime is a crime is a crime.

Stop making b.s. excuses.

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MrBoB51

May-21-13 9:57 PM

I can't hear you Rs. You're always quiet on the important stuff and ignore what you don't want to answer or try to dismiss it by ridicule which by now you should know does not work on me. You type a lot of words but fail to say much. At least you're consistent with your circumstantial thinking....BORING

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rschweizer

May-21-13 8:08 PM

TiredOfTax, once AGAIN: you are far, far beyond the point. It does not matter that it's a 'small' incident or that it was in 'upstate New York'. You continue to use stupid excuses like that in order to sweep it under the rug.

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TiredOfTax

May-21-13 6:12 PM

Only a liberal would take an incident in a small county in upstate NY and turn it into a huge deal... multiply the problem times a hundred and turn it into something to prove that progressives are on the side of the common man? You lost me at "this is where your argument fails"! Lets exaggerate this once again shall we? In simple terms, this is not and should not have been news.

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rschweizer

May-21-13 2:10 PM

See, MrBoB51, this is where your argument fails. You continue to say 'A' is fleecing 'B' while you make the ridiculous and foolish argument to no end that just because this guy is alleged to have stolen a coffeemaker valued at $125 that people who commit crimes of a greater value are more 'important' so this guy should be left alone.

Say what do you if 100 of these guys stole $12,500 total worth of coffeemakers (or anything for that matter), each suspected of 'stealing' $125 worth of merchandise or equipment, versus one guy accused of stealing $10,000?

My guess is that the second guy makes the front make of the paper, while the others get editorials written about how they're actually really nice and charming people and that they should be granted leniency.

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rschweizer

May-21-13 1:59 PM

MrBoB51, it's not an issue of going after one guy but not the other, so stop trying to make it that.

It's an issue that you and others in the area have wherein there is no 'fear' factor. Nothing seems to scare anyone out of a vote for someone. Amsterdam once had a convict serve as an alderman! But that's okay. A former police officer accused of stealing equipment for his personal business. Then gets elected! That's okay. A former sheriff's deputy rear-ends an elderly couple, allows girls who show their breasts to get out of tickets, uses his personal vehicle to make traffic stops, and shows p-ornography to a staffer- and gets elected and the appointed to municipal positions! That's ok!

Why is it okay? 'Oh, because he may have messed up one teeny tiny bit, but that's ok because he's actually a nice guy and mows my lawn and goes to church every Sunday...'

Good grief, give me a break.

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rschweizer

May-21-13 1:54 PM

taxtired, not to mention the incredible amount of waste those single-serve k-cups add to landfills. all that plastic just piling up.

I'll never buy one of use one. I just refill the mug my alma mater sent me for donating some $ or the thermos I got on the cheap at Eddie Bauer about 6 years ago!

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Stackrat

May-21-13 10:59 AM

Why dont we just blame it on his age, and give him a job as a county supervisor?

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taxtired

May-21-13 8:49 AM

It is sad when you have all them expensive single serve coffee's and no way to brew them. Tax payer paid also.

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MrBoB51

May-21-13 8:43 AM

Rs...loosen your sphincter a bit will ya? You want to persecute this guy but you're silent on your progressive in chief and his minions getting away with murder and outright lies. Good grief man, what difference does it make now? It's old news..happened a long time ago...sound familiar???

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rschweizer

May-20-13 12:05 PM

MrBoB51, 'let the guy have his coffee' is far from the point.

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MrBoB51

May-20-13 8:52 AM

We're being robbed every minute of every day by Albany and the focus is on a lousy coffee pot and a County Historian. Let the guy have his coffee, I'll pony up for the donuts.

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Hilltopper

May-20-13 7:27 AM

I hope this is a PR gimmick to revive the old Gary VanSlyke/Peter Betz cable tv show and move it to Thursday night. I for one really enjoyed it, the music and playful buffoonery. It was our local version of Hee-Haw. On the dark side, perhaps he was driven by a caffeine addiction or a need to protest the high price of K-cups, the true ripper-offer. At least we learned that it is not illegal to use part of your budget, dedicated to fight crime, to buy a coffee maker.

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hope11

May-20-13 3:17 AM

Peter Betz has shown great character over many, many years of service. This is it appears, a warlock hunt! There is something "rotten in the state of this affair". It is shocking to see the media rush to put his picture up like he is a terrible criminal. Hopefully, he will have good legal advice and this will pass. It is absurd that this has gone this far.

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rschweizer

May-19-13 10:28 PM

Annarondac, correct- innocent until proven guilty. I also do not believe there is a mysterious '$3 million bonus' Portnoy is talking about, nor a 'soccer theft.'

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Annarondac

May-19-13 8:05 PM

Let me remind people here that in the United States, you are innocent until proven guilty and that is the rule of law. As far as I understand, there has not yet been a trial, so Mr. Betz is innocent.

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rschweizer

May-19-13 5:20 PM

Portnoy, you and others need to stop with the argument that just because you suspect other things are going on that other things can go without punishment.

If those other things are brought to court as well, then guess what- we'll have the truth come out just as this. So go ahead and file your complaint with the police instead of just talk about it online.

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rschweizer

May-19-13 12:45 PM

"Not to mention whomever it was that turned him in is a JERK"...

Looks like you proved my point.

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