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Discipline needed at IRS

May 15, 2013

Last week, Internal Revenue Service officials insisted high-ranking leaders at the agency were not aware some conservative political groups were being harassed over tax matters....

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Scarecrow57

May-15-13 12:48 PM

Fast and Furious, Benghazi, AP Spy Scandal, The IRS abuse of power, and the list goes on and on.

Interestingly, Obama's response to each and every scandal " I didn't know". Which is true, he knows nothing!!!

Most corrupt administration ever. Just imagine the whiners on the left had this been a Republican doing all of this crap.

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moderation

May-15-13 12:56 PM

More to the story than the LH tells. From Bloomberg News: The Internal Revenue Service, under pressure after admitting it targeted anti-tax Tea Party groups for scrutiny in recent years, also had its eye on at least three Democratic-leaning organizations seeking nonprofit status. One of those groups, Emerge America, saw its tax-exempt status denied, forcing it to disclose its donors and pay some taxes. None of the Republican groups have said their applications were rejected.

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moderation

May-15-13 12:57 PM

Fast and furious was started during the Bush administration. What about the 43 attacks and 13 dead in attacks on embassies during Bush administration. Hypocritical selective outrage.

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drugsrus

May-15-13 1:45 PM

moderation, unfortunately the errors of past administrations have no bearing on the current batch of jokers Holder should be incarcerated for a bunch of reasons.

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TiredOfTax

May-15-13 1:48 PM

So moderation can you list the Americans names of those that died in those 43 attacks, give us the dates that the attacks happened or tell us how many were denied protection or even requested more security? You cannot spew a direct quote from the dailykoss and not have evidence to back it up. Please as you liberals always say, cite your source of a trustworthy site. Then step back into step with your fellow Obama supporters... you do not want to lose your spot as the demand for good positions in that line are in demand. Obama has shown his true open and unique brand of government we can see it through all the secrecy that it is not as promised!

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TiredOfTax

May-15-13 2:06 PM

In actuality, the Fast and Furious program was started in October 2009, nine months into the Obama presidency. Previous programs involving ATF agents allowing guns to “walk” across the border so as to trace them were run during the Bush presidency, but not this particular “field-initiated program.”

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gville70

May-15-13 4:43 PM

So the IRS asking for more proof of tax exempt status is harassment? What a bunch of whiny , temper tantrum, sore loser , whoosies you repukes are... What a bunch of drama queens, can't win an election so you folks cry cry cry...Blowing up imagined slights to grandiose proprotions.. No wonder you have to carry so many guns, you don't have the stones to live in the real world.. LOL Waiting on the next "liberal" attack on your delicate sensibilities!!!! I do declare..

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TiredOfTax

May-15-13 5:17 PM

G70, stick to the blame game and the I know nothing as your democrat leaders are doing. It is a disgrace for a man but on democrats it is very fitting.

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moderation

May-15-13 5:23 PM

Here's just a few TOT: No questions from the traditional media about the 13 lethal attacks on U.S. diplomatic facilities abroad (excluding those in Baghdad) before Barack Obama stepped into the Oval Office: Jan. 22, 2002, Calcutta, India; June 14, 2002, Karachi, Pakistan; Oct. 12, 2002, Denpasar, Bali; Feb. 28, 2003, Islamabad, Pakistan; May 12, 2003, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, July 30, 2004, Tashkent, Uzbekistan; Dec. 6, 2004, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia; March 2, 2006, Karachi, Pakistan; Sept. 12, 2006, Damascus, Syria; Jan. 12, 2007, Athens, Greece; March 18, 2008, Sana’a, Yemen; July 9, 2008, Istanbul, Turkey; Sept. 17, 2008, Sana’a, Yemen.

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TiredOfTax

May-15-13 5:37 PM

Nice try but there are no American deaths and many are not documented. Please continue to inform us if indeed these terror attacks lost American lives or were left unprotected as was Benghazi.

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moderation

May-15-13 5:40 PM

Benghazi was left unprotected because of Republicans cut their budgets. You are incapable of sustaining any argument against facts.

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moderation

May-15-13 5:43 PM

Suicide bomber kills 12 and injures 51. February 20, 2003, international diplomatic compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia Truck bomb kills 17.

February 28, 2003, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan Gunmen on motorcycles killed two consulate guards.

July 30, 2004, U.S. embassy in Taskkent, Uzbekistan Suicide bomber kills two.

December 6, 2004, U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia Militants stormed and occupied perimeter wall. Five killed, 10 wounded.

March 2, 2006, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan Suicide car bomber killed four, including a U.S. diplomate directly targeted by the assailants.

September 12, 2006, U.S. embassy in Damascus, Syria Gunmen attacked embassy with grenades, automatic weapons, and a car bomb (though second truck bomb failed to detonate). One killed and 13 wounded.

January 12, 2007, U.S. embassy in Athens, Greece A rocket-propelled grenade was fired at the embassy building. No one was injured.

July 9, 2008, U.S. consulate in Istanbul, T

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TiredOfTax

May-15-13 5:52 PM

Man can you go find a news source that is not all liberal all the time. The benghazi testimony stated that there were no monetary limitations to the security of the consulate. It was the direct refusal for aid from the SECRETARY OF STATE. But what does it matter now? She like Obama are not presidential, nor should either be in office. As for the rest of his administration, mostly should be in jail.

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TiredOfTax

May-15-13 5:55 PM

You may not be able to stop every attack on Americans all over the world, but in a dangerous place where you have been told that there was going to be an attack, who was going to perpetuate that attack on what day the attack was to take place and then refuse aid, not send the quick reaction force or even call to see if they were ok... criminal!

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TiredOfTax

May-15-13 6:04 PM

Lois Lerner, director of exempt organizations. She said progressive groups were also selected for greater scrutiny based on their names, but did not provide details. "I don't have them off the top of my head," she said.

The IRS did not respond to follow-up questions Tuesday.

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Scarecrow57

May-15-13 8:52 PM

Actually moderation, F&F was started under Obama. Bush started similar operation and killed it because it did't work. Odumbo, not understanding history, did it it again!

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DaveGibson

May-15-13 8:56 PM

501(c)4 qualified organizations must be non-partisan. That disqualifies every Tea Party organization that I know of. They're certainly welcome to organize and promote candidates, but not at taxpayer expense. They should pay taxes like everyone else.

So far as the IRS is concerned, the big mistake they made was apologizing. Why should they apologize for doing their job and trying to minimize fraud?

BTW, I heard a segment on this on NPR today. The law clearly states that a 501(c)4 may not participate in partisan politics nor endorse candidates. Later, courts have ruled that the primary purpose of a 501(c)4 must be for the social welfare, but minor political participation is permitted. Paul Ryan stated, on national radio, that to him, that means that a 501(c)4 organization can have 49.9% political participation and that's fine. Unbelievable.

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usedtolivethere

May-16-13 8:11 AM

Much outrage by Republicans over 4 Americans killed by terrorists in Benghazi. Where was your outrage when 4,486 Americans died in Iraq because an American president lied about WMD? Where was your outrage over the IRS targeting a liberal anti-war church, the NAACP, Greenpeace, and Emerge America when they were all targeted by the IRS under the Bush Administration? Hypocrasy, once again, at it's best. And don't say that the only thing that matters is what's happening now. That's like saying if I murdered someone last year it's OK, but you murdered someone yesterday. You people kill me. Conservative philosphy is fine, conservative venom isn't

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Pards13

May-16-13 10:37 AM

Let's face it they all do it. Just because someone else did something wrong is not a legitimate excuse. I expect something better from our elected officials and I have always been disappointed. It does not matter if they are repugnants or demoncrats they all stink like dead fish in the sun.

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TiredOfTax

May-16-13 7:12 PM

So DaveGibson, if indeed it is so cut and dried, why did they drag it out for months? Why not just deny all of the tea parties applications? And can the IRS simply just release someones tax information for political gain? Would you like it if the shoe was on the other foot and your group was targeted by some conservative tax man? It is wrong no matter who does it and Obama today was asked if he knew about it, he used layerism and said he knew nothing about the AG report, sidestepped the true question if he knew about the improper treatment of the tea party applications altogether. I take that as a yes he did know. Or he would and should have said I absolutely knew nothing about the IRS doing such things and would never condone such actions. He didn't say anything of this kind.

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TiredOfTax

May-16-13 10:03 PM

Discipline may be needed in every level of this administration... reward for being a puppet? The Internal Revenue Service official in charge of the tax-exempt organizations at the time when the unit targeted tea party groups now runs the IRS office responsible for the health care legislation. Sarah Hall Ingram served as commissioner of the office responsible for tax-exempt organizations between 2009 and 2012. But Ingram has since left that part of the IRS and is now the director of the IRS’ Affordable Care Act office, the IRS confirmed to ABC News today.

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yukonjack

May-17-13 7:07 AM

Steven Miller is merely a fall guy for this IRS incident...The previous commissioner,appointed by Dubya Bush was commissioner during this alleged abuse of power...Republican politicians probably the lowest form of human beings right under pedophiles,rapist and people who beat children and old people never are at a loss for creating something out of nothing...TOO BAD they couldn't use this skill to do something good for the majority of the US.....!!

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Ron1960

May-17-13 7:19 AM

Pards13, You say you expect better from the politicans and you should. But what are or have you done to try and make that happen. people just complain about waht a scum bag certain politican is but then they refuse to run for that office or they just refuse to vote for their opponet or even worse not vote at all. Have you been out there looking for people to run against the ones your disappointed in and have you been been out campaining for a new candidate. Thes are the things that need to get done if you want better from the politians, unfortunately there are way to many people who just sit and complain and take no action to try to make a difference.

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Pards13

May-17-13 9:53 AM

Ron, I have with both time and money. I have served on numerous boards, foundations, scouts and such. While there are many fine people serving in public office too many are there for the wrong reason. This "he said, she said" crap has to stop. Just because someone else has done it does not make it right. I really don't care whether it is obama, bush, clinton, bush, carter, or ford. Stop blaming some one else, man up and fix it. The first thing out of someones mouth is not my fault rather than that's terrible lets fix it. Repugnants and demoncrats are both equally responsible. By the way I will still contribute both time and money in the hope that it will get better and I hope you will also. Without hope all is lost.

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Ron1960

May-17-13 3:18 PM

Pards13, God bless yuou for what you do for our young people we need more people like you. Yes I agree that most people in elected office on all levels of government are there for the wrong reason, I also believe that there are some good people in both political parties but it is for people like you and I to start changing that situation by running for office and by convincing everyone to get out and vote for new and different people because the maqjority of those in office now are not getting the job done.

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