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Cheers and jeers

May 11, 2013

CHEERS — To reaching out. We have always had a disdain for the act of vandalism in our own community and elsewhere....

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TiredOfTax

May-16-13 10:22 PM

Men who are physically strong are more likely to have right wing political views Weaker men more likely to support welfare state and wealth redistribution Link may reflect psychological traits that evolved in our ancestors Strength was a proxy for ability to defend or acquire resources There is no link between women's physical strength and political views

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rschweizer

May-14-13 10:48 AM

I think the connection with Taylor and rowing is that one or both of the founders are Union grads, and Union has its launch site in Saratoga County, which may have been affected. They're role model executives who have given hundreds of thousands of dollars to education.

A job well done.

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TiredOfTax

May-14-13 7:53 AM

From day one we have had doubts about Obama and his divisive political agenda. But now into his fifth year... as everything is coming to a head, we now see that he is a failure and his corrupt administration will rank right down there with Richard Nixon... crooks! Everything that he has touched is a disaster!

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rschweizer

May-13-13 8:57 PM

TiredOfTax, you always claim to have the 'truth' to everything and are so fast to put others' research to the back burner in lieu of stuff you simply make up.

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TiredOfTax

May-13-13 6:54 PM

Used, do YOURSELF a favor and before you spew any more fairy tales about making money on the GM bailout repayment... we are 20 BILLION DOLLARS poorer because of it. There is a new thing called the internet that your pal Gore invented... (JK LOL!) use it and google some information as the crap you gave is all fiction. GM has stated it paid but truth is they used the second bailout to pay off the first... it was a better deal. But you go ahead and tell your story... it is way more entertaining that way!

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rschweizer

May-13-13 4:50 PM

drugsrus, you continue to claim things are gloomy when in actuality they aren't. It's just a scare tactic you like to use.

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rschweizer

May-13-13 4:49 PM

drugsrus, I wasn't 'defending the government.' I'm not sure where you got this nonsense from.

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drugsrus

May-13-13 1:19 PM

swizzer, are you ever going to stop defending the government???? They are trying to tell us how successful the Chevy Volt is when 90+% of the sales are to the US gov't. Just making the numbers look better, kind of like amortizing the debt and printing more money to make things look better than they are. The real fun will begin when the falsehood of the stock market level gets "corrected". If you haven't noticed just about every sector of the economy is slow, AAA road calls are down, many normally busy repair garages are slow, car dealers aren't selling cars, even McDonalds is getting to be a quiet place.

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rschweizer

May-13-13 12:29 PM

And, Bob, to clarify my last comment, yes, it was Chrysler who who paid their bailout back, which the gov certainly profitted. As did most former shareholders.

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rschweizer

May-13-13 12:17 PM

MrBoB51, I'm not sure what kind of 'trick' there is if more money comes out than what was put in, taxpayer money or not. The same goes for AIG. The gov. made a killing on that bailout, to the tune of billions.

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MrBoB51

May-13-13 10:48 AM

Useto, there you go making up stuff again. Using borrowed taxpayer money to pay off borrowed taxpayer money is an accounting trick, not a payoff. It was Chrysler who paid off their bailout. As of Sept 2012 GM still owes the taxpayer 27.2 BILLION $$$ out of 50.7 BILLION $$$. Additionaly, we still hold a 26% stake in GM equity, if the Treasury were to sell that stake today we would lose another 20+ Billion. The American taxpayer is expected to lose money on the Auto ind. bailout and in YOUR anger you just keep throwing out BS hoping nobody will notice. Quit it already.

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usedtolivethere

May-13-13 7:37 AM

oh, and the government actually made money when GM repaid, but let's not acknowledge that because it wouldn't help to feed your anger

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usedtolivethere

May-13-13 7:35 AM

Actually, TOT, if I had bills, I would feed my family first.

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rschweizer

May-12-13 9:42 PM

1stwardcitizen, I don't think it's that simple. Even if they rented or leased property, the landlord could apply the same waiver for having rented to a non-prof. I could be wrong, but I've heard it applied before.

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rschweizer

May-12-13 9:39 PM

Ron1960, of course I know what the equalization rate is and how it's factored; my point is that the value alone is not the basis for your tax bill. It's misleading to say otherwise.

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TiredOfTax

May-12-13 9:35 PM

Used,when you have bills do you pay the ones that will give you the most trouble first? Or do you do like the Obama administration did in the GM takeover where they kicked the investors to the curb selected some debt to never pay and then divided out shares to friends like the union... you can choose what facts(?) you want to run with but in the end nothing is perfect. But I choose to not believe the liars and cheaters that are spending our way to insolvency. Billions of dollars wasted and borrowed and to what advantage? ZIP! Have you heard about the IRS targeting the Tea Party? How fair is that? Crooks in charge bring out the worst in our country... looks like the Obama elevator is on the fall! Buckle the belts as it is getting uglier with every fact that surfaces!

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1stwardcitizen

May-12-13 9:33 PM

Non profits should not be able to own property. They should rent it so the property pays their fair share of taxes to pay for the services they receive. Most non profits use services more than the average taxpayer does.

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JoePhillip

May-12-13 8:21 PM

Jeez, Bob. I wasn't really getting into word games, just using the English language, but I guess when one crosses the threshold of two syllable words, some get quite defensive. I also never indicated that I was upset at my landlord's avarice (oops, there I go again!). If he wants the headache of a tenant like me, he deserves to make a profit. That's why I made the choice to rent rather than own -- that, and the fact that I don't want to pay property taxes.

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Ron1960

May-12-13 5:37 PM

RS, Your right to a point. There is another factor that is included in your assessment and that is the equalization rate of you municipality. The lower your equalization rate the more you will pay in taxes. Example the town of Bleecker equalization rate is 100% and that means their property is assessed at full market value Their county tax rate for last year was about $8.12 per $1,000 of assessed value. The town of Caroga has an equalization rate of 42% thus their property is only assessed at 42% of the properties market value and the town of Caroga county tax rate for last year was $18.00+ per $1,000 of assessed value. so as you can see there aremany things that figure in your tax bill. Some municipalities keep their equalization rate low because by doing so gives them a little more in the sale tax distribution, how ever that does nothing to give the property owner any lower property or school taxes.

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ataxpayer

May-12-13 5:23 PM

usedto - I agree that our veterans should be taken care before anyone - here's a thought get rid of the free "obama cell phone" which cost taxpayers $1.6 BILLION in 2011. The program was set up with Reagan so low income individuals had access to a phone for emergencies and job searches. Thanks to Obama he made the program bigger and more expensive for the taxpayers. Now they are given cell phones with cameras, 250 minutes, texting. If one has 250 minutes of emergencies calls a month they have true problems and I guarantee one out a hundred of these phones actually will prove to show a call inquiring about a job interview. Go back to the basic land line LifeLine program and give the savings to our vets!

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TiredOfTax

May-12-13 5:08 PM

RS if you look there are a plethora of places that confirm this information. From the website: empirecenter. org Residents of the city of Gloversville and Gloversville school district in the Mohawk Valley pay the highest property taxes found in any city in New York State, with an effective rate of $52.40 per $1,000. YNN, A Fulton County city has risen to the top of a very undesirable list. As YNN's Maria Valvanis explains, a new study found Gloversville ranks number one as the highest taxed city in the state. If you believe that there in an inequitable comparison on values, tell us who is going to pay us a higher rate so we can all sell off and go to a lower taxed area, PLEASE!

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TiredOfTax

May-12-13 3:46 PM

So what you are saying here RS is you are the only one that can mislead. Oh and then insult to prove your point... nice quip to put this paper right back in its place! Problem is the editor of this paper is Pat Beck, she is a woman! Maybe if you call her a man it would seem more like your normal insult?

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rschweizer

May-12-13 3:39 PM

This ed. looks intentionally skewed. First of all, tax bills are based on assessment, not 'value', as the ed. states. A home 'valued' at $70 may only be assessed at $40k or $50k, and that's a huge difference. I know the editor knows this, it's just strange why she intentionally left it there.

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YDirector

May-12-13 1:18 PM

Hilltopper: The basis of tax exemption for a charity is it improves the quality of life in a community. Government authorities realize this and would rather see the charity reinvest its money on its services rather than taxes. It's true taxes are too high in our area, but trying to get tax relief from the non-profits is short sighted. In the case of the YMCA for example, which helps the community more, the present new facility serving thousands of people as a tax exempt charity, or no Y and the Gates Mills property privately owned yet generating some tax revenue?

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usedtolivethere

May-12-13 11:45 AM

John Boehner Wants To Prioritize Debt: Pay off China First Before U.S. Troops

Speaker of the House John Boehner is looking to reorganize debt repayment in the event that the United States cannot meet its financial obligations. Boehner was asked on Bloomberg TV about the Full Faith and Credit Act which if passed, it would direct funds to principal and interest payments to bondholders before payments to other programs such as for veterans, medicare, and others would come second.

Sharp criticism is drawn by skeptics who view the bill as dangerous, whereas Republicans view it as the means to maintain the United States financial obligations abroad. When Boehner was asked directly that if it would mean payments would go to China before U.S troops he responded, “Listen. Those who have loaned us money, like in any other proceeding, if you will, court proceeding, the bondholders usually get paid first. Same thing here.

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