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April 23, 2013

On May 21, voters will head to the polls to decide on the 2013-14 budgets for their respective school districts....

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usedtolivethere

Apr-26-13 8:15 AM

Lizzie you are so right. Education is everyone's responsibility but no one is more important than parents. Expectations at home will trump any negatives encountered by the child. Well stated!

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lizzie

Apr-25-13 4:29 PM

Attitude may not change everything, but it's an inexpensive start, and it has worked in other districts with similar demographics. Something has to change, that's for sure.

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lizzie

Apr-25-13 4:28 PM

Part 2 - with that background, my children got a great education in Gloversville. My youngest was 6th in his class, wants to work for EnCon, but is also taking the State Police exam in the fall. The oldest graduated in the top 25. They both made the best and the most of their time in school. Why?

Because we expected them to. We don't expect enough of the kids here, we blame parents, teachers, poverty, absenteeism, truancy, everything but ourselves for not expecting more.

The entire culture in Gloversville from the Super right down to custodians and bus drivers has to adopt and portray a belief that all our students can be successful. Not all going to an ivy league school, or even to community college, but we have to help them to believe they can achieve their maximum potential while they're there. They have to know education is important, other than marriage and children, it's the most important thing in their lives.

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lizzie

Apr-25-13 4:24 PM

I'd like to speak a little to that "good education" because I've been thinking about it lately, in regards to my own children, now 23 and 21.

My 23 year old went to UMass for plastics engineering. Ended up dropping out because the classes were too taxing for someone who was also working parttime and living on her own. She's now a copy center manager at Staples in Waltham, is happy, makes a nice living, and attends community college out there when time and money allow her to. She ultimately wants to be a chef.

My youngest is a junior at Paul Smiths. They consider him a senior because of the AP credits he had when he arrived, credits he earned in Gloversville. He could graduate now, but not walk, because he still needs 3 classes. So, he'll still be done 6 months early. I'm going to do a "Part 2" because I know I'll be over the character limit!

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MrBoB51

Apr-25-13 10:02 AM

Every year we beat the crap out of this topic in one way or another until the end of May. We entertain each other with opinions on how to proceed yet again when the question that's never answered always is 'when are the kids going to start getting a good education'?

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lizzie

Apr-24-13 4:26 PM

Portnoy - it's why I picked up petitions a while ago, mulling whether or not to run again. The process now is so far from what it should be, I can't understand how it got so far off track.....15 years ago, it was so secretive, a group of people, myself included, worked very hard to open things up, It saddens me to see and read the way it is now.

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lizzie

Apr-23-13 11:04 PM

How can a board adequately monitor a $58 million dollar spending plan when they've cut their meetings from twice a month to once a month? That interim Super who didn't want to spend 2 nights out is gone now - time to get back to business.....

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TiredOfTax

Apr-23-13 9:26 PM

Remember how merger was the only option for smaller schools and how Gloversville went courting Wheelerville so save them from their forgone fate... today's Leader story: CAROGA - The Wheelerville Union Free School District Board of Education last week adopted a proposed $4.3 million 2013-14 budget showing a 2 percent tax-levy increase, below the district's allowable 3.26 percent state levy cap.

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MrBoB51

Apr-23-13 5:37 PM

Clue, can we comment on your opinions before you say them???

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MrBoB51

Apr-23-13 5:33 PM

Step 1: District voters get to vote for or against Union teachers. Step 2: (Like we have to always do with the budget until it passes) Repeat Step 1.

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Ron1960

Apr-23-13 4:55 PM

What needs to be done is for the taxpayers to get out and vote these budgets down and stop electing former teachers and their family members on to the boards of education.The majority of the board of education members are there to represent the teachers and administrators and forget all about the tax payer and the students.

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taxtired

Apr-23-13 4:29 PM

AS far as my logic: Come on little sheep. I need your money. We will say it is for the children. But I know it is for my benefit and pension. Thank You.

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taxtired

Apr-23-13 4:19 PM

Please get a clue when u find one let us know.

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taxtired

Apr-23-13 4:18 PM

They believe Andy though. You need to get a clue what goes on around you.

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GReader

Apr-23-13 4:18 PM

Pleasegetaclue: How can you compare the legally required posting and release of budget information with an opinion expressed in an editorial? This editorial is absolutely correct that we taxpayers have the right to this information and should be encouraged to evaluate the budget and speak to our Board of Education representatives prior to them casting a vote on the budget. The timing of this vote, and having only a weekend to review $58+ million in expenditures (if I recall the number correctly) is very disrespectful to the Board members as well as to the public. The three members who voted against its adoption should be congratulated for doing what we elected them to do. That is, looking out for their constituent taxpayers as well as our students.

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PleaseGetAClue

Apr-23-13 4:15 PM

TaxTired: "Maybe people should send thier kids to an Amish school. WHAT a savings. No pensions, no retirment benefits, and no UNION."

You must not realize that Statements like this make you sound very jealous. Kind of like an 11 year old when they say "If I can't have this, then no one should have it." If it weren't for the right turning a blind eye while iinvestment bankers raped the system on Wall Street while providing themselves bonuses, this would be a non issue and you'd have to find something else to try to blame on Unions. The problem with your logic is a majority of people are not stupid enough to believe it

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taxtired

Apr-23-13 4:03 PM

Imagine what you could get in the public restrooms in a school??

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taxtired

Apr-23-13 2:37 PM

Maybe people should send thier kids to an Amish school. WHAT a savings. No pensions, no retirment benefits, and no UNION.

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PleaseGetAClue

Apr-23-13 1:22 PM

You should have asked us to comment on this editorial before you wrote it. That's the same concept as what is laid out here

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