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Budget fails to cut deficit

April 1, 2013

Well, it wasn’t worth the wait. The budget approved March 23 by the U.S. Senate, that is. Under Democratic control, the Senate had not approved a budget in four year....

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Scarecrow57

Apr-01-13 12:20 PM

So do nothing Reid finally does something and not even all Democrats are on board. Obama and Reid got their tax increases. NOW it is time to GUT Spending.

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rschweizer

Apr-01-13 12:58 PM

In an unrelated story, Charleston, WV, was just named as the 'most miserable city in the US', according to a Gallup poll just released today:

'A new national survey pinpoints two West Virginia cities as the most miserable ones in America. Charleston takes the first spot in The Gallup Well-Being Index "The 10 Most Miserable Cities in America." The Huntington and the Ashland, Ky., areas made the No. 2 spot. Charleston dropped seven spots in the 2012 well-being index, from its previous ranking. The capital city managed to drop 44 spots in the work environment category and 17 spots in emotional health, to take last place, scoring a total of 60.8 out of 100.'

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TiredOfTax

Apr-01-13 1:50 PM

I know that we expected that they would give us some lousy spending budget... but this is a slap in the face of AMERICANS that demand fiscal responsibility! I have to hand it to the democrats though by passing this bill and signing their name to it shows just how ignorant they truly think we are! PLUS we have the added bonus of Obama telling us to teach our kids how to budget responsibly? Isn't that just a hoot??? President Barack Obama, who has increased the national debt by $53,377 per household, has proclaimed April “National Financial Capability Month,” during which his administration will do things such as teach young people “how to budget responsibly."

“I call upon all Americans to observe this month with programs and activities to improve their understanding of financial principles and practices,” Obama said in an official proclamation released Friday.

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MrBoB51

Apr-01-13 2:00 PM

As long as Congress continues to use Baseline Budgeting, spending will ALWAYS be higher. This method, which cannot be used by individuals or Corp.'s or any business of any kind, was invented by Congress in 1974 to relieve the lazy bastages of the exhaustive chore of zero based budgeting, you know, actually figuring out what you're going to spend on and how much. Time to put these supposed 'experts' back on the job instead of their ugly mugs in front of a camera. Why do we allow Congress to continue this absurd practice?

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Scarecrow57

Apr-01-13 2:06 PM

Not surprised that Charleston is one of the most Miserable Cities; given this administrations attacks on the coal industry. Surprised that NYC, Chicago, and Detroit were also not in the top 10.

Of the most content cities we find -

1. Lincoln NE. 2. Boulder, Colo. 3. Burlington-South Burlington, Vt. 4. Provo-Orem, Utah

Wait... Utah, the home of Mormons and Mitt????? Sure wish we as a country had that leadership now.

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MrBoB51

Apr-01-13 2:09 PM

After thinking about it, it's good that the concept of baseline budgeting isn't used in the Tax Code. The IRS could tax you out 10 years (as Congress does with the budget deficit) based on just one years income. Whether or not you make at least 8% more per year or even have a firggin job would be of no consequence, you're going to be taxed on the 'assumed' income plus a lot of creative accounting that will add more to your tax burden. Just like they do now.

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DaveGibson

Apr-01-13 2:27 PM

I don't know why I bother to read the incredibly ignorant editorials written by the goofball in corporate.

First of all the statement "It dodged almost entirely the need for entitlement reform" is amazingly stupid. By "entitlements" people are usually referring to social security and Medicare, two programs that are NOT part of the federal budget. They have their own taxes and their own budgets and do not add to the federal debt.

There can be no serious cutting of the federal budget unless the military is considered, which consumes 52.42% of it, and which does directly add to the federal debt.

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Scarecrow57

Apr-01-13 2:32 PM

Gee Dave Not so sure about that. Entitlements too me are things like Grants, Subsides, Food Stamps, HEAP, etc. Social Security and Medicare, while part of the budget and debt, are things the working class have paid for.

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rschweizer

Apr-01-13 3:12 PM

DaveGibson, there was an excelent, must-read article published in this month's Esquire I read on my flight yesterday. It mentions everything you say about welfare and the massive military budget and why closing bases around the world should be considered as well.

It's 'How Not to Make America Great', and can be found in the Politics toolbar on the Esquire site, scroll to March 25

www [dot]esquire [dot]com/blogs/politics/how-not-to-make-america-great-0413.

'...start with overpriced weapons systems and deployment strategies that cost $1 million per soldier per year in Afghanistan.'

'...starting with overpriced weapons systems and deployment strategies that cost $1 million per soldier per year in Afghanistan.'

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rschweizer

Apr-01-13 3:14 PM

Scarecrow57, there is an actual, specific term 'entitlement' as used by Congress, which includes only things like SS and Medicare, Medicaid.

If you want to choose to go ahead and use 'entitlement' falsely to include everything Congress spends on any social program, you'd actually be incorrect.

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rschweizer

Apr-01-13 3:19 PM

And let's totally forget about the fact that it was the Republican Party that pushed for making legal the use of off-shore bank accounts in places like the Caribbean for only the grossly rich Americans to take advantage of as tax shelters.

How on earth does that benefit the poor people of upstate New York? The answer is quite simple: it doesn't.

Why people in Fulton County would continue to support such behaviour is so far beyond me.

Message to the Republican Party:

"I have a better idea. How about you actually pay your taxes instead, to help sustain the country that enabled you to make this money in the first place?"

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DaveGibson

Apr-01-13 3:27 PM

rschweizer, good article. "The federal welfare program (now called Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, or TANF) spends all of 0.2 percent of national income. Even if we add in Medicaid, food stamps, and the earned income tax credit, we're still at 3 percent of GDP, less than a seventh of the budget". Exactly.

And "If ever there was a bloated, corrupted budget, it's that of the military-industrial complex, which picks our pockets as we salute the flag". Yup.

Only if you factor in military pensions, the VA, and foreign military aid, the budget is almost $1 trillion.

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MrBoB51

Apr-01-13 4:46 PM

So, with a current GDP of .4% and flat that 3% suddenly becomes a lot of money that we don't have. Ahhhh..fun with money is when you celebrate someone picking your pocket. Note to Military haters, like it or not it's there for your protection as described in our Constitution so complain all you want. I love the Military and any of you who criticize or deny me my right to love what or whom I want are nothing but hateful bigots.

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rschweizer

Apr-01-13 6:09 PM

MrBoB51, no one said we shouldn't have a military. About the only thing most rational people can agree on regarding the military is its unnecessarily massive size. I'm a bit perplexed in your argument when you say that just because you love America that somehow that means that taxpayers should pay through the nose for that love.

I can already hear you and the others claiming that those who are against spending $700,000,000,000 at the Defense Department are 'un-American' and that they must be 'un-patriotic' and 'treasonists.'

You're a funny guy, really.

The question is: do we spend $700,000,000,000 on the military because we NEED to in order to fund wars we should have never started (as most Americans would already agree in saying we never needed to get involved in Iraq); OR do we not start those wars at all and pay perhaps a fraction for our Defense budget.

Just think: one million dollars per soldier per year.

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rschweizer

Apr-01-13 6:32 PM

MrBoB51, will you at least agree that is is wholly irresponsible of you to talk about how badly we need to cut spending but refuse to acknowledge cutting the massive military budget as a means to save serious money ($250,000,000,000 by one estimate alone).

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laker88

Apr-01-13 7:14 PM

Interesting how looking at military cuts is defined as "military haters!!"

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DaveGibson

Apr-01-13 7:19 PM

MrBob... " I love the Military and any of you who criticize or deny me my right to love what or whom I want are nothing but hateful bigots."

Great! So you support gay marriage then?

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yukonjack

Apr-01-13 7:25 PM

Our military is fighting for "our freedoms"is like screwing for virginity.WAKE UP PEOPLE..

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yukonjack

Apr-01-13 7:25 PM

Our military fighting for "our freedoms"is like screwing for virginity.WAKE UP PEOPLE..That's NOT happening!!!!!!!!!

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Scarecrow57

Apr-01-13 9:25 PM

@rschweizer - Actually, as originally crafted, SS/Medicare were earned. Now they are entitlements for some.

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Scarecrow57

Apr-01-13 9:27 PM

"And let's totally forget about the fact that it was the Republican Party that pushed for making legal the use of off-shore bank accounts in places like the Caribbean for only the grossly rich Americans to take advantage of as tax shelters.

How on earth does that benefit the poor people of upstate New York? The answer is quite simple: it doesn't."

Why does what I earn have to help someone else?????

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Scarecrow57

Apr-01-13 9:31 PM

Dear MrBob51. I ma as Conservative as the next. "Note to Military haters, like it or not it's there for your protection as described in our Constitution so complain all you want"

I would be perfectly fine with a small military as defined by the Constitution to defend America that is backed up by the militia. However, 75 % of our troops are defending some other country. Where did we ever get this ignorant notion tat we are the worlds keepers? Close all foreign bases now!

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Scarecrow57

Apr-01-13 9:36 PM

@ rschweizer - Some facts for you. 1. The U.S. spends $700 ($2,500 per person) billion per year on defense; China at #2 spends $90 billion ($83 per person)

2. The U.S. Spends more than the net 18 countries combined. This includes China, Russia, France, , Germany, Great Britain, and Spain.

3. The United States Accounts for 40% of world wide Defense spending. I am not a military hater, but as a conservative I see we are spending far too much on it.

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laker88

Apr-01-13 9:49 PM

Interesting stats Scarecrow, thanks..and I totally agree that we need to scale way back on being the world's policeman.

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rschweizer

Apr-01-13 10:35 PM

Scarecrow57, I hope you were aiming that last comment at MrBob or someone else because I for one am for trimming the h*ell out of the DoD budget. I agree 100% with your comment and am already familiar with the sad but factual data you included there.

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