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Obey spirit of tax cap

March 28, 2013

The state’s alleged “2 percent” tax-levy cap has, for the most part, failed to live up to its name....

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taxtired

Mar-30-13 8:17 AM

James Murray AKA; FFTA President

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taxtired

Mar-30-13 8:14 AM

Fonda- Fultonville. This was in the Leader Herald dated May 27, 2012. The article is signed by James Murry.

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laker88

Mar-30-13 8:04 AM

tot...What district agreed to a short term freeze, with balloon increases in the future?...not doubting you, just curious.

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TheArchitect

Mar-29-13 6:01 PM

As always, the devil is in the detail. While some units have offered to defer their annual pay increases, they haven't offered to forego their step or lane payment increases. Therefore, their salaries will continue to increase.

In the education system, a partial (and temporary) reduction in the total annual salary increase is viewed as a pay decrease, even though the total salary realized each year increases. This again is a great illustration of our failed public education system.

Anyone who can afford it should give serious consideration to have their children attend private school. While there are additional costs, the quality of education is superb and teh childeren will be better prepared for college.

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HonestAbe

Mar-29-13 5:23 PM

I haven't heard of any pay freezes for Fonda-Fultonville for the 2013-14 school year and with this extra aid and no threats of layoffs looming over their heads you can bet there will be raises for everyone, including us taxpayers in our tax bills. If they needed 250,000 and got 350,000 then we should not see an increase in our taxes PERIOD. I hope the taxpayers of the district are ready to send another message to the boe like we did last year, it went down by over 700 votes. Don't raise our taxes when you don't need the money to get by. We are not going to allow you to raise our taxes to give the employees raises that we in the private sector are not getting. I just heard today that two of the coaches (who were donating their pay for the good of the kids) are not coaching this year. Ha! Guess it is about the money after all!

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TiredOfTax

Mar-29-13 1:48 PM

So now after 50-100 years of steadily increasing salaries and benefits well beyond that of the private sector, our unionized teachers unselfishly are willing to take little of no pay raise short term? I have seen where they have agreed to a pay freeze short term with ballooning future salary increases. I do feel so much better now knowing that they are not in it only for the money but they actually care about the kids??? What about the teachers that chose to have their fellow teachers laid off instead of any concessions?? Still feel sorry for them?

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taxtired

Mar-29-13 1:45 PM

They call that a pay freeze for this year. Then it will be 1.5 % for the following year, Then 1.5% the year after. Sounds like 3 % to me. As reported by the Leader Herald for Fonda - Fultonville Schools.

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MrBoB51

Mar-29-13 11:40 AM

FFCHS wanted 5% from local taxpayers and got 8.5% from State taxpayers. Looks like a 3.5% reduction to local taxpayers is in order. I expect to see that reflected in the new proposed FFCHS budget. Sounds fair to me.

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PleaseGetAClue

Mar-29-13 11:37 AM

MOST schoold district employees are taking ZERO's. your claim of 5-8% wage increases and bumps in pensions are absurd. Those days arelong gone and you know it you're just running out of rehtoric to spew

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taxtired

Mar-29-13 8:32 AM

With the incresed aid will come pay and pension raises as well.

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HonestAbe

Mar-28-13 11:07 PM

With this significant increase in aid to Fonda-Fultonville it would be the right thing for the board of education to not have an increase in taxes. I don't think anyone is looking for a decrease but holding the line would be the decent thing to do.

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rschweizer

Mar-28-13 10:32 PM

TiredOfTax, once again you continue to misinterpret my comments, this time the use of irony, which i clearly started.

The wealthiest counties and municipalities in those counties, like Westchester, Rockland, etc., voted last year to go over their caps, while some of the poorest counties, like Fulton, instead kept the cap in place but make cuts.

That's called irony, ToT. I know literary tools haven't been your strongest suit, but I actually needed to spell it out for you that time.

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laker88

Mar-28-13 9:39 PM

What district(s) is giving 5-8% raises?? I know of several area school districts that have taken pay freezes.

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TiredOfTax

Mar-28-13 8:20 PM

So RS, is Fulton county on your list of "wleahthiest counties"? I do not believe that they have been under the cap at all so far. Maybe because of the mandates and the low income housing... medicaid, medicare?? But what do I know? I am sure you will list that very soon.

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TheArchitect

Mar-28-13 3:08 PM

The infusion of additional school aid from this year's state budget continues to mask the problem. Not one district is adequately dealing with the unjustified pay increases that increases the school employees 5 to 8 percent annually with the combined annual raises, steps, and lane payments. This is occurring all while the education performance continues to decline year after year. There in no business in upstate NY that provides these pay increases year after year. Something big needs to change and the state needs a visionary to establish a new paradigm in public education funding and performance.

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rschweizer

Mar-28-13 2:32 PM

TiredOfTax, I think the majority of places were able to stay under the cap. When even the thought of going over it becomes apparent, it makes the front page of the paper, which doesn't seem too common. The irony is that the wleahthiest counties in New York actually voted to go over their caps last year.

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TiredOfTax

Mar-28-13 1:24 PM

The spirit of the tax cap is all that really remains. Has anyone stayed under the cap?

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rschweizer

Mar-28-13 12:38 PM

Discobulous, that was a classic hat trick on behalf of the state, the ol' 'swallow but don't taste!'

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Hilltopper

Mar-28-13 12:18 PM

With the increase in aid to schools, the last thing the taxpayer expects is a decrease to his tax bill. In Fonda-Fultonville the 2% tax cap translates to 5%. In Amsterdam, the infusion of $5 million in state aid no doubt is to address the low numbers put up by hispanic students who are, by all signs, the "chosen ones" that all political parties are s-u-c-k-i-n-g up to. My, how the worm has turned!

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