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State must spend wisely

March 25, 2013

State aid to schools is expected to increase when the state budget is passed. No one knows yet quite how much local districts can expect to receive, but the total statewide is about $1 billion....

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Stackrat

Mar-25-13 11:40 AM

How about the millions we spent legislating an ill thought gun control bill?

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rschweizer

Mar-25-13 12:14 PM

stackrat, that most certainly did not cost 'millions' by even a longshot.

also, by your logic, 'we' should spend no money on any legislation, at all, period., without getting some flack from the 'conservative' crowd.

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Taxedtoomuch

Mar-25-13 12:16 PM

What ever happened to autonomy? This reliance on higher levels of government is turning more and more into a form of Socialism. Towns rely on funding from the county which relies on funding from the state, which relies on funding from the Federal Government. This is not the system that our founding fathers created nor had foreseen for our great nation. Spend what you can afford and that is it.

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Stackrat

Mar-25-13 1:21 PM

Divide the cost of our state to operate by the amount of days they are in session. Multiply by the amount of days spent writing,ratifying, rewriting, voting and then rewriting again. My arithmatic and my logic are just fine, and yours? Time poorly spent on a knee jerk reaction to current events. Our state government couldn't spend a dime wisely if it was by accident!

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MrBoB51

Mar-25-13 1:53 PM

Throwing money at education won't magically make education better so here's an idea...lets throw more money at education, just think about it more. AND the State should pony up more to school districts. Uh, that's STILL us folks, our money provided by New York State Taxpayers and there does not appear to be enough to go around. Any of you got some extra money to help out!!!!!??

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TiredOfTax

Mar-25-13 1:56 PM

This is the most ridiculous request anyone has ever made of NYS! Spend wisely? Next you will ask them to lower taxes... very funny! But not going to happen as Cuomo is still in charge...

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MrBoB51

Mar-25-13 2:01 PM

Don't start Rs...you do not know what a conservative is, you never have. All the time spent on knee jerk gun control not only in this State but in the entire Country has cost millions and you know it. Also, putting a 'cost' to the act of legislating is like asking the waiter to detail the cost of cooking your asparagus. It only has conservative connotations if you want it to.

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taxtired

Mar-25-13 2:32 PM

How about starting with the school union. They seem to cost a lot.

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rschweizer

Mar-25-13 4:25 PM

MrBob51, no, I'm not 'starting' anything, and my comment had nothing to do with what you or any professes to know about 'conservativism.'

The fact of the matter is stackrat's logic has a serious flaw, again, one which indicates that no amount of money should be spent on legislation of any type without people whining about it, regardless of that legislation actually being for something more positive, like tougher DWI laws, for example.

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rschweizer

Mar-25-13 5:18 PM

Re: 'Police: Accident leads to DWI charge'

Who wants to start taking bets that those charges get dropped in their entirety? And rightfully so.

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laker88

Mar-25-13 5:47 PM

It's not only the amount of aid that's important, it's how it is distributed...we'll have to stay tuned to see how much goes downstate where a heavy concentration of votes are. And the State must still be in denial if they refuse to look at the idiotic/costly state mandates...It is the State that is a large part of the problem!

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taxtired

Mar-25-13 6:49 PM

rs New York can solve that problem. Outlaw it behind closed doors.

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Stackrat

Mar-25-13 8:11 PM

Well here's a thought, why dont we find out what our constituency wants BEFORE we legislate it?? Or, should we dispense with the formality?

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rschweizer

Mar-25-13 10:44 PM

Stackrat, we already have that type of legislation-by-public-opinion; it's called referendum. It seems that you ignore the times when referenda are out to vote whenever it's a question of something you don't particularly like.

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laker88

Mar-26-13 6:58 AM

Well said Portnoy! I've heard so many good teachers say that they had intended to teach beyond 55...dedicated teachers who you'd want your kids to have. But with all the State crap coming down, they're getting out at 55. Will the State wake up when they see so many good teachers leaving??...probably not.

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TiredOfTax

Mar-26-13 7:17 AM

Early retirement is what the state strives for when things are tight. I have seen many that planned to work more years take the offer, and get out.

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MrBoB51

Mar-26-13 7:17 AM

Rs, since 'initiatives', 'recall' and 'referendums' are not allowed in NYS, what the h*e*l*l are you talking about?

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Flapper

Mar-26-13 7:42 AM

How about, the state must spend without incurring debt, Better yet; the state must spend in a manner that reduces the state debt by say 10% each year. Enough fantasy spending on wishful ideas that feel good for the heart but provide no development or improvement to the state or the tax payers. What great realization are we supposed to achieve at the end of all this debt that will cancel out the debt and simultaneously provide prosperity and wealth for the state and all its’ people? Higher education, please, Cuba has free higher education and where are they?

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MrBoB51

Mar-26-13 7:50 AM

I'm still chuckling at Rs slamming Stack for ignoring non existant referendums that are (were) up to vote that he doesn't agree with. So, how many have you voted on RS? It's amazing that you know so much that is so wrong. Keep 'em coming.

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Stackrat

Mar-26-13 8:52 AM

My logic is flawed??

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taxtired

Mar-26-13 9:03 AM

Sounds like rs got knocked out on this round. We need a referee to confirm it. Do we have anyone certified by N.Y. ??

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MrBoB51

Mar-26-13 11:01 AM

The latest figures tell us around 80% of NYC High School graduates cannot read, write and are not proficient at math. Even FMCC offers remedial courses for students who don't meet the requirements for admission. Why are the students not prepared? So, where are the good teachers? Upstate? Nope. Spending ANY money will not stop this decline. Our children are being taught by a 'new' type of core curriculum that does not work any better than the others that have been shoved down our kids throats for the past 40 years or so. The results are obvious, except to those victims of the education system who were indoctrinated instead of educated. This system is intrenched in our culture, dictating Fed., State and local affairs via Unions and Ed. Depts. The best way to reverse this is to hit the beloved re-set button. Then, you parents get off your butts and get the change done. This is YOUR fight and without your intervention it's only going to get worse regardless what Big Ed. tells you.

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MrBoB51

Mar-26-13 11:13 AM

Great bon mot taxtired.

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taxtired

Mar-26-13 12:07 PM

Merci.

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rschweizer

Mar-26-13 12:23 PM

MrBoB51, referenda aren't allowed in New York? What was the vote in Montgomery County last summer for changing the county government?

From the Montgomery County website:

"Tuesday, August 14th: ... the County Board of Supervisors will consider any... Charter and whether to move the Charter forward for a referendum vote in November’s election."

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