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March 12, 2013

National tragedies sometimes spur lawmakers to act on emotion. We are seeing examples of that after the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Newtown, Conn. In New York state, Gov....

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TiredOfTax

Mar-14-13 6:12 PM

PS geta after looking back to see just what post you were referring to it looks like you and usedto are one and the same? As that is the post that I posted after... mystifying...

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TiredOfTax

Mar-14-13 6:08 PM

heygetaclue, I do not need a penpal and this is not what this list is all about. For your information I did not disagree, and even if I did why would I have to explain anything to you? Why don't you and usedto get a room to live in with everything just as you two want them, you won't have to put up with republicans and you can agree on everything. Also for your information I could care less if you disagree agree or flee it is up to you and you alone. I do not believe that we even need those buttons, but you lefties sure do!

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PleaseGetAClue

Mar-14-13 1:07 PM

Hey TOT...since you hit that disagree button based on who posted and not the content of the post here are some more facts for you to disagree with: 1) I own guns (many) 2) My posting merely pointed out that Scarecrow was wrong in his posting...... and you disagree???? with what exactly?

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taxtired

Mar-14-13 12:39 PM

ps. RS A gun permit has nothing to do with the functioning of government. It isn't tax payer paid.

So what is your point ??

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taxtired

Mar-14-13 12:24 PM

rs It is private because YOU want it to be.

Do you see the comparison??

Nope .

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taxtired

Mar-14-13 12:15 PM

Why would it be your business if someone have a gun permit or not then ?? Do you see the comparison??

NO you don't.

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rschweizer

Mar-14-13 12:10 PM

taxtired, because this is private information and relates nothing to the functioning of government or the distribution of taxpayer-paid government assistance.

See the difference? Probably not.

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taxtired

Mar-14-13 12:06 PM

If you people think all information should be public, Why not use YOUR real names and list your address also??

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rschweizer

Mar-13-13 9:19 PM

TiredOfTax, your example of the New Jersey woman who had her guns seized is poor.

First of all, there's been no trial for her charges, so there have been no clear facts in this case.

Second, there's nothing saying this arresting cop was just an overzealous guy who abused his power and had no actual right to seize anything. That has absolutely nothing to do with his right to seize her guns as much as it has to do with him perhaps not being the most qualified officer of the law in upholding the Constitution. That can be said in his statements that she made 'terroristic threats' and that he may not have even been present during the course of the events he claimed to have alleged in his own sworn statement.

Wait for the facts to come out in this before saying someone's rights have been trampled on.

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taxtired

Mar-13-13 3:43 PM

twist

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rschweizer

Mar-13-13 3:31 PM

taxtired, 'then everyone who has ever had a parking ticket is a criminal then'

No, since that's not considered a crime. Breaking the law, yes, but not considered a crime in the legal sense. Your example, like a speeding example I previously cited, is a violation.

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MrBoB51

Mar-13-13 2:03 PM

Yup, you're right on that one rs.

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PleaseGetAClue

Mar-13-13 1:59 PM

Scarecrow: "That said. This SAFE act is doomed as soon as it hits the courts."

SWING and a a miss....Strike one: No injunction against SAFE Act, plaintiff will appeal Posted on March 13, 2013 at 11:21 am by Rick Karlin, Capitol bureau

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taxtired

Mar-13-13 12:37 PM

rs According to you then everyone who has ever had a parking ticket is a criminal then. After all it is breaking the law. LOL

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taxtired

Mar-13-13 12:34 PM

Rs You should be making pretzels the way you twist words.

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taxtired

Mar-13-13 12:29 PM

rs I never said ALL criminals. Read what it says.

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rschweizer

Mar-13-13 12:27 PM

taxtired, except you'd be wrong. You can serve jail time for misdemeanors, be considered a criminal (you know, for having committed a crime!) and still get a gun.

This is of course what the law says, and not what you consider, which doesn't really matter in that regard.

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Insane

Mar-13-13 12:26 PM

There are many problems with disclosing who has a hand gun. Things like outdated information and a different person may be living there. Police officers and correction officers have permits do we want criminals to know where they live. It's also a road map to people who don't have guns and may be targeted. Or the gun owners home may be targeted by a thief and go after the gun thus putting another gun on the street endangering the public. Nope, nothing good can come from publishing that information. For those that feel that we should how about we publish your tax return.

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Pards13

Mar-13-13 11:54 AM

If I remember my US history the Bill of rights were all ratified at the same time and one amendment was not more important than any other. Whether I have a gun permit really is not anyone's business except mine. Personal information is too readily accessible without any accountability for the one accessing it. If someone wants to access my information there should be record that is traceable to that person otherwise it should remain private.

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MomOf1

Mar-13-13 10:04 AM

Why is whether or not I own a handgun the business of every Tom, Dick and Harry who lives in my county? Having that kind of information published (as it was by the Journal News) just puts a target on people. It lets criminals know where they can go to possibly steal handguns and who may be vulnerable to a crime because they are not gun owners.

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drugsrus

Mar-13-13 9:29 AM

good question MrBoB

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MrBoB51

Mar-13-13 8:26 AM

Does anyone believe that everyone has the right to know everything about anybody?

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taxtired

Mar-13-13 8:10 AM

You assume right rs. I consider a criminal someone with at least one felony.

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TiredOfTax

Mar-13-13 7:59 AM

usedtolivethere, finally you had a good thought... but if you had actually read anything that I have written over the many years here is that I prefer that government be invisible to me. In that I mean much less government in my everyday life. This means letting everyone get on with their lives until such time as they infringe on or impede anothers rights to do the same. Smaller government, fewer laws and people that respect our right to our pursuit of safety, to prosper and happiness. And in now way am I saying a lawless society or an old out west mentality, just a chance to live life unencumbered with restrictions on every aspect of life. Most people were taught to take care of themselves back in the day... now they are given a manual on how to get the country to give to them everything that they need and what they are supposed to do every second of every day, like your needs?

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usedtolivethere

Mar-13-13 6:00 AM

So, TOT, once again using the Constitution to suit your agenda. The first Amendment was passed before the second Amendmant (sic), but you hold the 2nd Amendmeant (sic) to a different standard? Another example of your twisted hypocrasy (sic)

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