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Don’t muzzle state workers

March 4, 2013

The New York State Department of Transportation has made itself a poster child for hierarchical lockstep by forcing out Essex County engineer Mike Fayette because he talked to a reporter last year....

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Skrocki

Mar-04-13 12:35 PM

Most State and Municipal government agencies have policies restricting employees from making statements to news media. They usually employ or assign a spokesperson for that purpose.This protects the agency from dissemination of erroneous information or sensitive information that may be part of an ongoing investigation or subject of litigation. The Freedom of Information Act was established to provide the media and general public access to this information.

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taxtired

Mar-04-13 1:04 PM

The problem is the spokespeople say a lot but nothing at all. They sound good though. 10 lawyers and a speech later. This could be the problem.

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TiredOfTax

Mar-04-13 1:54 PM

Plus you have to include Schumer... he gets to be in every picture and always takes the credit. It is the democrat thing to do!!

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TiredOfTax

Mar-04-13 1:55 PM

Skrocki and it limits just who can take the credit! That is what they can't live with!

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rschweizer

Mar-04-13 2:05 PM

TiredOfTax, of COURSE you turned this simple thread into a liberal/conservative thing. Of COURSE you did.

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rschweizer

Mar-04-13 2:06 PM

TiredOfTax "Plus you have to include Schumer... he gets to be in every picture and always takes the credit. It is the democrat thing to do!! "

Hey, ToT: don't forget good ol' Mr. Farley. And Mr. Tedisco. And good riddance Mr. Amedore.

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taxtired

Mar-04-13 2:14 PM

rs: You sound like yor have mental anger problems. The Fulton County Mental Health Clinic can help you.

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rschweizer

Mar-04-13 2:16 PM

Speaking on behalf of an employer does not constitute an automatic termination. Additionally, Mr. Fayette was never actually cited as being a spokesperson in any capacity. Perhaps Mr. Fayette will sue, as he hinted at, for a year's salary plus attorney fees. While the department appears to have a spokeperson, Mr. Fayette does not appear to have said anything libelous or mailcious, which are the absolute minimum requirements for founding an argument. This explains why the State appears to have used 'other' reasons for termination; reasons that, for some reason. were never an issue until this came about.

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Knickman

Mar-04-13 5:36 PM

It so happens that I have had dealings through my job with Mr. Fayette. He has been disciplined for personal use of state email and cell phones. I suspect they were just laying for him. I personally had no problems with my dealings with him. His comments were positive and supportive to the state about the response to the storm damage. If he made critical remarks about the response, I would understand why this action might be taken.

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drugsrus

Mar-04-13 5:38 PM

swizzer- you may be right (did I just type that) - BUT not totally - Tot did not make this a lib/conserv issue. Merely stated that those at the top do not appreciate it when credit for good things is placed on those who actually earned it. BUT they are quick to place blame elsewhere when something goes wrong

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rschweizer

Mar-04-13 6:00 PM

Knickman, which begs the question of why were the alleged misuse of a cellphone and email never an issue (at least to the extent that he would be fired) until now?

It seems like that 'personal use of email' excuse is only used when the employer doesn't like you. The former Montgomery County Emergency Management director was fired for the same thing; but Amsterdam's former police chief wasn't.

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TiredOfTax

Mar-04-13 6:27 PM

Plus it is a liberal/conservative thing. A conservative wouldn't fire a good employee for such a trivial thing... but a liberal takes these things to heart just like you with my posts! Off to the extremes is where your kind loves to go!

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rschweizer

Mar-04-13 7:29 PM

TiredOfTax, how do you figure a person's political idealogy would play any way into whether or not an employer kept or fired an employee?

Do you mean to tell us, oh enlightened one, that only a 'conservative' would follow the rules and that a 'liberal' would break them? Or vice versa?

What planet do you live on?

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rschweizer

Mar-04-13 7:31 PM

And ToT; looks like that half-brain of yours doesn't seem able to process simple thought. If you'd look at a brief history of ideaology, you would see that 'liberals' tend to be more lax in their enforcement of rules. Hence lighter sentences for marijuana infractions, DWI offenses, etc.

You're simply inventing reasons to MAKE this into a conservative/liberal debate when in fact there are none.

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Knickman

Mar-04-13 7:39 PM

rschweizer, it looks like selective enforcement doesn't it?

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TiredOfTax

Mar-04-13 7:50 PM

Again you use insults. Liberals LOVE to make rules. They love to force the issues to make it appear that they have a great idea to protect something or someone but it is all a front for their own benefit. Keep up the great posts it lets everyone see the true liberal ideals.

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usedtolivethere

Mar-05-13 7:39 AM

Wasn't Nixon a tad conservative when he ordered Cox fired in the Saturday Night Masacre? TOT, you have a habit of painting everyone with the same brush once again. "A conservative wouldn't fire a good employee for such a trivial thing" 6:27 PM Must be a right wing problem. You don't see individuls. Why? They must all look the same to you. Your bigotry shines through

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MrBoB51

Mar-05-13 10:25 AM

"To do that interview instead of Fayette, she would've had to do one of two things:" So...what are they? It would be nice to know rather than guess. Since the LH leaves out critical info, why not change the subject. Doesn't anybody at the LH proofread? Rs, I'm sure you know that a persons ideology permeates every aspect of their life.

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Hilltopper

Mar-05-13 11:27 AM

NYSDOT problems start at the top. The department is headed by Commissioner Joan McDonald, a political hack who worked various jobs in the NYS Assembly. After many positions secured through political appointment, Cuomo appointed her to head the DOT. She has a BA in English and a MS in public administration, with no formal education in engineering. On the local front, her department has awarded millions to Centro Civico in Amsterdam, headed by Laden Alomar, reported Montgomery County delegate to the democratic national convention, who by the way, happens to live in Loudonville. It all falls in line with courting the Hispanic vote, or buying it with public money. Without knowing Mr. Fayette from a bag of doorknobs, I would bet a dollar to a donut that there is a hidden political agenda that would explain the man's firing. In my opinion nothing happens in NY state government without a political reason. As a result, we live in dysfunction junction.

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PleaseGetAClue

Mar-05-13 1:32 PM

On another subject: The LH should rank its "highest rated users" based on how many "agrees" their posts get and not just how many posts they put up. This would knock TOT from the top 100. it's easy to just keep posting nonsensical diatribes like TOT does now, but not so easy to sway the debate....something TOT has NEVER done.

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Hilltopper

Mar-05-13 2:14 PM

I heard that the LH wanted to write all their own editorials but they were muzzled by the corporate office in West Virginia.

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notgood

Mar-05-13 7:24 PM

All state workers should be fired and replaced with private sector employees. Honestly! what do they produce? Nothing but a union running around saying they need more. This state is so out of control it's sad!

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taxtired

Mar-06-13 2:27 PM

not good ;;; I agree. Someone should sell the state self standing shovels. They will last forever with no benefits required.

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gville70

Mar-07-13 8:09 AM

Poor TOT only you could be so nutty as to get more dislikes for your crazy conservative posts on a CONSERVATIVE webpage...

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TiredOfTax

Mar-07-13 2:01 PM

That isn't disagrees there G it is people that are telling me that they just do not get it! This tells me that the are reading but need much, much more help. I am glad that they let me know like this so I can help them out!!

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