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Don’t muzzle state workers

March 4, 2013

The New York State Department of Transportation has made itself a poster child for hierarchical lockstep by forcing out Essex County engineer Mike Fayette because he talked to a reporter last year....

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MrBoB51

Mar-08-13 5:16 PM

Nicely said stack, however, there are a lot who believe that which is simply not true and cannot be convinced otherwise.

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Stackrat

Mar-08-13 11:30 AM

P.S. I can count on one hand the amount of times I've "agreed/disagreed". Who Cares?

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Stackrat

Mar-08-13 11:27 AM

Really?? There is a contingent of people that really care how this paper ranks you as a poster?! Furthermore, who the heck cares if anyone agrees, its YOUR opinion. Try beliving in your own opinion. Dont write it because your looking for others to agree. Write it because its what you believe to be true.

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usedtolivethere

Mar-08-13 8:17 AM

I have only asked you one question. I wanted your take on the Jim Greer situation. It's because you are always weighing in when a progressive goes off track, I wanted your view of Greer. You fail to even acknowledge the question. That's my motivation.

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TiredOfTax

Mar-07-13 10:46 PM

used. you have lately been asking me questions demanding that I inform you of things that you yourself bring up... why would someone with all the answers want my opinion so vehemently? If it is you that in fact gets it, whats with all your questions. If it is you with all the answers then why do you seek my guidance and leadership? You wanted my attention, here it is. Spell out your true motivation on why you want my opinion then belittle the answers?

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usedtolivethere

Mar-07-13 3:35 PM

T, there is a slight chance that you don't get it. What arrogance! People that disagree with you don't get it? I hope you don't throw your shoulder out while you pat yourself on the back

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TiredOfTax

Mar-07-13 2:01 PM

That isn't disagrees there G it is people that are telling me that they just do not get it! This tells me that the are reading but need much, much more help. I am glad that they let me know like this so I can help them out!!

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gville70

Mar-07-13 8:09 AM

Poor TOT only you could be so nutty as to get more dislikes for your crazy conservative posts on a CONSERVATIVE webpage...

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taxtired

Mar-06-13 2:27 PM

not good ;;; I agree. Someone should sell the state self standing shovels. They will last forever with no benefits required.

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notgood

Mar-05-13 7:24 PM

All state workers should be fired and replaced with private sector employees. Honestly! what do they produce? Nothing but a union running around saying they need more. This state is so out of control it's sad!

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Hilltopper

Mar-05-13 2:14 PM

I heard that the LH wanted to write all their own editorials but they were muzzled by the corporate office in West Virginia.

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PleaseGetAClue

Mar-05-13 1:32 PM

On another subject: The LH should rank its "highest rated users" based on how many "agrees" their posts get and not just how many posts they put up. This would knock TOT from the top 100. it's easy to just keep posting nonsensical diatribes like TOT does now, but not so easy to sway the debate....something TOT has NEVER done.

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Hilltopper

Mar-05-13 11:27 AM

NYSDOT problems start at the top. The department is headed by Commissioner Joan McDonald, a political hack who worked various jobs in the NYS Assembly. After many positions secured through political appointment, Cuomo appointed her to head the DOT. She has a BA in English and a MS in public administration, with no formal education in engineering. On the local front, her department has awarded millions to Centro Civico in Amsterdam, headed by Laden Alomar, reported Montgomery County delegate to the democratic national convention, who by the way, happens to live in Loudonville. It all falls in line with courting the Hispanic vote, or buying it with public money. Without knowing Mr. Fayette from a bag of doorknobs, I would bet a dollar to a donut that there is a hidden political agenda that would explain the man's firing. In my opinion nothing happens in NY state government without a political reason. As a result, we live in dysfunction junction.

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MrBoB51

Mar-05-13 10:25 AM

"To do that interview instead of Fayette, she would've had to do one of two things:" So...what are they? It would be nice to know rather than guess. Since the LH leaves out critical info, why not change the subject. Doesn't anybody at the LH proofread? Rs, I'm sure you know that a persons ideology permeates every aspect of their life.

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usedtolivethere

Mar-05-13 7:39 AM

Wasn't Nixon a tad conservative when he ordered Cox fired in the Saturday Night Masacre? TOT, you have a habit of painting everyone with the same brush once again. "A conservative wouldn't fire a good employee for such a trivial thing" 6:27 PM Must be a right wing problem. You don't see individuls. Why? They must all look the same to you. Your bigotry shines through

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TiredOfTax

Mar-04-13 7:50 PM

Again you use insults. Liberals LOVE to make rules. They love to force the issues to make it appear that they have a great idea to protect something or someone but it is all a front for their own benefit. Keep up the great posts it lets everyone see the true liberal ideals.

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Knickman

Mar-04-13 7:39 PM

rschweizer, it looks like selective enforcement doesn't it?

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rschweizer

Mar-04-13 7:31 PM

And ToT; looks like that half-brain of yours doesn't seem able to process simple thought. If you'd look at a brief history of ideaology, you would see that 'liberals' tend to be more lax in their enforcement of rules. Hence lighter sentences for marijuana infractions, DWI offenses, etc.

You're simply inventing reasons to MAKE this into a conservative/liberal debate when in fact there are none.

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rschweizer

Mar-04-13 7:29 PM

TiredOfTax, how do you figure a person's political idealogy would play any way into whether or not an employer kept or fired an employee?

Do you mean to tell us, oh enlightened one, that only a 'conservative' would follow the rules and that a 'liberal' would break them? Or vice versa?

What planet do you live on?

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TiredOfTax

Mar-04-13 6:27 PM

Plus it is a liberal/conservative thing. A conservative wouldn't fire a good employee for such a trivial thing... but a liberal takes these things to heart just like you with my posts! Off to the extremes is where your kind loves to go!

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rschweizer

Mar-04-13 6:00 PM

Knickman, which begs the question of why were the alleged misuse of a cellphone and email never an issue (at least to the extent that he would be fired) until now?

It seems like that 'personal use of email' excuse is only used when the employer doesn't like you. The former Montgomery County Emergency Management director was fired for the same thing; but Amsterdam's former police chief wasn't.

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drugsrus

Mar-04-13 5:38 PM

swizzer- you may be right (did I just type that) - BUT not totally - Tot did not make this a lib/conserv issue. Merely stated that those at the top do not appreciate it when credit for good things is placed on those who actually earned it. BUT they are quick to place blame elsewhere when something goes wrong

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Knickman

Mar-04-13 5:36 PM

It so happens that I have had dealings through my job with Mr. Fayette. He has been disciplined for personal use of state email and cell phones. I suspect they were just laying for him. I personally had no problems with my dealings with him. His comments were positive and supportive to the state about the response to the storm damage. If he made critical remarks about the response, I would understand why this action might be taken.

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rschweizer

Mar-04-13 2:16 PM

Speaking on behalf of an employer does not constitute an automatic termination. Additionally, Mr. Fayette was never actually cited as being a spokesperson in any capacity. Perhaps Mr. Fayette will sue, as he hinted at, for a year's salary plus attorney fees. While the department appears to have a spokeperson, Mr. Fayette does not appear to have said anything libelous or mailcious, which are the absolute minimum requirements for founding an argument. This explains why the State appears to have used 'other' reasons for termination; reasons that, for some reason. were never an issue until this came about.

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taxtired

Mar-04-13 2:14 PM

rs: You sound like yor have mental anger problems. The Fulton County Mental Health Clinic can help you.

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