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Keystone XL needs support

February 22, 2013

Perhaps President Barack Obama should worry more about the American people than about radical environmentalists who have bullied him during his first four years, never satisfied with his own......

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DaveGibson

Feb-22-13 12:34 PM

Wow. Here's that dumb editor from the corporate office again.

The fact of the matter is that most of the oil transported through the Keystone pipeline would be exported where it would bring more money, not sold in the US.

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Scarecrow57

Feb-22-13 12:38 PM

The pipeline is already 50% completed as it delivers oil from Canada to refineries Illinois and Nebraska. However the leftist in this country want you to believe all of this oil will be sent overseas; which is a HUGE lie. There are already hundreds of thousands of miles of pipelines already installed all over the country. Yet liberals want to impede progress (ironic isn't it) and growth for a better tomorrow based on a pack of lies.

Just once, I would like to see this President do the right thing instead of getting paid off.

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Scarecrow57

Feb-22-13 12:39 PM

And right on cue, there is Dave spreading the lie.

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DaveGibson

Feb-22-13 12:50 PM

LOL! Hey Scarecrow... google "Keystone Pipeline Facts" and click on the top link to (are you ready) Fox News. I quote...

1. Keystone XL Would Not Reduce Foreign Oil Dependency

The oil to be sent through Keystone XL pipeline was never destined for US markets. In its own presentation to investors about the proposed pipeline extension, TransCanada (the company behind Keystone XL) boasted that most if not all of the extracted and refined oil would be exported --- sold in oversees markets where oil fetches a higher price (and thus turns a higher profit for the company).

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taxtired

Feb-22-13 1:04 PM

Let Canada refine the oil. Then truck it to us.

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TiredOfTax

Feb-22-13 1:40 PM

You know what, it does not matter who ends up with it. If we only refine it we still make money, if we refine a lot of it... prices WILL come down. You can find a lot of information out there to prove what ever point you believe in. You will disregard the information that you deem is wrong and you will continue to enforce your preconceived belief. In fact this project is a positive step for the US economy whether you believe it or not. Obama has said that fuel prices must rise to get Americans to switch to alternative fuels... that is his opinion and I believe very wrong. Build the pipeline and lets go fight another battle over the next issue. Everything is an issue these days.

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rschweizer

Feb-22-13 1:54 PM

Scarecrow57, exactly who is 'paying off' the President?

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Scarecrow57

Feb-22-13 1:56 PM

Sorry Dave, when I do that Google I get the keystone page followed by huffpo. However, I recommend the wikipedia link that talks about the entire pipeline. It will tell you how phase 1 and 2 are complete and sending oil to refineries in Illinois, Nebraska, and Oklahoma. So basically, Obama got his in Illinois, screw everyone else.

However, to repsonse to your post, since the oil is coming from Canada (a foreign country)of course it will not reduce our dependence on foreign oil.

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Scarecrow57

Feb-22-13 1:57 PM

rschweizer - all of those people who contributed to his reelection.

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Scarecrow57

Feb-22-13 2:01 PM

There are 55,000 miles of Pipeline in use in the U.S. right now. One has to wonder why the anti-progressives got their panties in a bunch over this little bitty pipeline.

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rschweizer

Feb-22-13 2:15 PM

taxtired 'Let Canada refine the oil. Then truck it to us. '

You, good sir, win the Captain Obvious Award of the year.

The reason, as pretty much has been the argument since day 1, is American JOBS! Trucking it from Canada doesn't benefit as many people in the US (job-wise) means no construction or tech jobs for Americans. And that's what everyojne is fighting over.

But let me guess- yuo were being sarcastic.

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rschweizer

Feb-22-13 2:17 PM

Scarecrow57, if you are implying that environmentalist lobbies or every single person who voted for President Obama, with all their rage against building this pipeline, have more money that the oil and gass lobbies, you are truly one ignorant fool.

Oil and gas co's are posting insanely high profits, a lot of which goes to their respective lobbies, none of which are even remotely close to any environmental lobby.

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rschweizer

Feb-22-13 2:18 PM

Scarecrow57, you use Wikipedia for your source? No wonder you're easy to put in place.

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Flapper

Feb-22-13 2:31 PM

It all comes down to whose energy supply we are drink from. Who ever the government backs to supply the country with their energy will be sitting large. All this other good and bad krap is just an attempt to herd the public. Green energy will do anything to stifle fossil energy so they can get a foot-hold; a foot-hold that green energy can't afford to establish without the tax-payer’s wallets.

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taxtired

Feb-22-13 2:46 PM

rs, Go to the border sometime and check to see how many american trucks cross it everyday. It isn't just the truck driver getting paid. It is an American trucking company also.

PS just a hop skip and a jump with an oil tanker crossing the St. Lawrence Seaway.

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taxtired

Feb-22-13 2:50 PM

Ships go up and down it everyday.

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taxtired

Feb-22-13 2:54 PM

RS u need to get out of g'ville more. I man who knows all but hasn't seen anything except pictures in books.

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MrBoB51

Feb-22-13 2:59 PM

The goal is to hog all our natural resources, let everybody else run out of theirs then we got 'em.

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MrBoB51

Feb-22-13 3:02 PM

Never, ever, ever use wiki-anything as a source. At least don't admit it.

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MrBoB51

Feb-22-13 3:19 PM

All those for $4.00+/gallon of gas say 'AYE'......

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PleaseGetAClue

Feb-22-13 3:19 PM

This was worth the reading just to get the following quote from TOT:

"You can find a lot of information out there to prove what ever point you believe in. You will disregard the information that you deem is wrong and you will continue to enforce your preconceived belief."

I can't wait to use that on TOT when it againbecomes necessary......

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rschweizer

Feb-22-13 3:20 PM

taxtired, I guess you probably thought I was against the Keystone line- wrong.

And again, the argument is that halting construction means no construction jobs for Americans. That certainly has a greater effect than just truckers and shipping crews.

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taxtired

Feb-22-13 3:31 PM

If it wasn't for truckers you would have no food or many other things. Ask walmart how many trucks they have on the road?

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taxtired

Feb-22-13 3:38 PM

Rs Construction jobs would be created with the pipeline. They would last a couple years and then the workers would get layed off and be on unemployment. So I guess the tax payers will pay for it in the end.

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rschweizer

Feb-22-13 4:05 PM

taxtired, that is how EVERY construction job works. You can't have construction that lasts forever.

When Luther Forest when up, as with any construction project, included in the numbers were the temporary construction jobs that would be created. It's not like those workers won't have ANY job after the pipeline is built. Just not THAT one. They will certainly have others to do.

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