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Consider Fonda station

February 19, 2013

After more than a century of service the Fonda Volunteer Fire Department will soon shut down after the village board last week voted 4-1 to dissolve the department....

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MrBoB51

Feb-19-13 1:54 PM

It's my understanding that the Mohawk Fire District is pretty large and the Station is located perhaps 1 1/2 miles from the Fonda station. Look at the positive side, at least Village taxpayers are going to get a break on property taxes.

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PleaseGetAClue

Feb-19-13 3:48 PM

I will believe "the Village taxpayers are going to get a break on property taxes." when I see it happen, until then.......

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HonestAbe

Feb-19-13 4:13 PM

I have to agree. It will be a cold day in oh let's say Florida where the Mayor lives half of the year before I see a break in my tax bill over this.

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taxtired

Feb-19-13 5:00 PM

Tax break??? never happen!!!

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MrBoB51

Feb-19-13 6:13 PM

Ok...I'm guilty of an assumption. My Mohawk Fire Levy for '13 was $75...better or worse?

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Knickman

Feb-19-13 9:31 PM

There probably would be no harm in having a "station 2". The Mohawk district probably could use the fire equipment that Fonda had to supplement what they already have. No one in the district should see their fire insurance increase because mileage from the mohawk station is not far enough away, should there only be one station.

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Letscutthebs

Feb-20-13 6:37 AM

Now wait ... Fonda only pays for 20 something grand in fire taxes and they should have the station dead center? Also where is the savings ina station 2. Come on guys. Mohawk didn't ask for this. This is politics in Fonda and not in mohawk. Firemen don't poke at one another and don't bash another department. Politician do that. Beggers can't be chooser. You can't have champagne taste with a beer pocketbook. You want fire protection then pay for it. Don't ask another department to change everything it knows because 20 grand in savings means that much to you. Remember they don't get the paycheck or a thank you half the time. They are volunteer!

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getreal

Feb-20-13 6:43 AM

It's all about one man getting back at another!...Nothing to do about the people and their safety!

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MrBoB51

Feb-20-13 7:45 AM

The article says that the COST of fire protection in the Village was 43k and the SAVINGS are 22k. Would any Village taxpayer please let us know what the amount is you pay for fire protection. When is saving taxpayers money a bad thing, even 22k?? NEVER!!!! How did this become about one man getting back at another? We all would like to know about that one. Or could it be as innocuous as consolidating services for a declining population? As the saying goes, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

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Hilltopper

Feb-20-13 4:40 PM

According to what I learned from an insurance agent, the entire Town of Mohawk has an ISO rating of nine, with one being the best rating and ten the worst possible rating. Any savings in fire tax is negated by a very high premium on your home owner's insurance policy. What the insurance companies say is that if you have a fire in Mohawk, based on manpower, equipment, and response time, major damage is expected. I personally have more faith in the Town of Mohawk and Tribes Hill FDs than that, I think that they are both excellent Volunteer Depts. Try to convince the insurance companies.

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Letscutthebs

Feb-20-13 5:13 PM

You never get above an 8 for volunteer departments. The whole point of this article was to make a ploy for keeping the Fonda Firehouse. That costs money and isn't big enough to house all of Mohawks trucks anyways. they may have to eventually build a new house because of how new trucks are made anyways. As unfortunate as it is to close the Fonda house the savings would be negated by the cost of keeping the firehouse as a recreation center. You can't have both.

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Hilltopper

Feb-20-13 5:59 PM

You're blowing smoke about volunteer FDs never getting below an 8. I remember a story in the news last year that said the Broadalbin Kennnyetto fire rating was getting lowered and it was dropping from a 4 to 5. (Recorder, Mar 28, 2012)

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Hilltopper

Feb-20-13 6:04 PM

JAIME STUDD

Recorder News Staff 3/28/2012

BROADALBIN -- The Broadalbin Kennyetto Fire Company was recently notified of a change in the Public Protection Classification assigned to the village of Broadalbin by the Insurance Services Office, specifically that it has been downgraded from a Class 4 to a Class 5 fire district.

The ISO is an independent, for profit company that assigns classifications to more than 46,000 districts nationwide as a method of assessing risks for insurance companies, insurance regulators and fire departments.

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Letscutthebs

Feb-20-13 6:08 PM

I stand corrected ... this is what I've been told HT. But there are limits compared to paid and how far you are away.

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Hilltopper

Feb-20-13 7:14 PM

I have been told that there are only two volunteer fire districts in Mont. Co., Town of Mohawk and Ft. Hunter. All others are coverage by contract. Anybody?

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HonestAbe

Feb-20-13 9:18 PM

I am not sure but Fultonville may be volunteer as well

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Hilltopper

Feb-20-13 10:40 PM

We know there are several volunteer fire departments, but the question is how many "FIRE DISTRICTS" are there in Montgomery County?

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ffcsparent

Mar-26-13 7:01 PM

Hilltopper- there are only 2 Fire Districts in Montgomery County, 1 paid Dept., City of Amsterdam, the other volunteer Dept's are in villages or contract with towns in fire protection districts. there are differences to each type, villages are very much like fire districts. As sad as it is, what happened to the Fonda Dept., this is something that will become the norm in the future. The avenue taken to get to the result with a cost savings is what needs to be done in a much better way. Fonda residents didn't pay a fire tax before, when the village is added to the Mohawk fire District, they will be paying a fire tax for coverage. The village claims a cost savings to taxpayers, but there taxes wont be going down, the village will spend that money in different places instead of fire protection!!! Once again, when poor planning strikes the budget, public safety is the first that's looked at!!

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ffcsparent

Mar-26-13 7:08 PM

Yes there are contracts to all fire departments to provide coverage to the residents in the protection districts. The villages that contract with outside towns, is supposed to involve the fire department with negotiations with said towns, the money received from the towns to a village is supposed to be for fire protection. that is something that is not always done in a proper way. there is often times a double payment involved when dealing with villages and towns in fire protection districts as well, something the towns should have a much better handle on to protect the taxpayers dollars in a much better way, instead of worrying about hurting one's feelings. Another lesson that needs to be learned by elected officials. The towns of Canjo and Glen are the only two that don't have a fire tax in Mont. county, the rates range from 28.88 per thousand to .85 per thousand. Emergency services is not a cheap business by any means!!!

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