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Saturday delivery change OK

February 14, 2013

The U.S. Postal Service’s decision to cut service on Saturdays comes as no surprise. Much has been written about the post office’s financial problems....

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Hilltopper

Feb-14-13 12:49 PM

The USPS should begin by closing half of the dinky donkey offices that don't generate enough revenue to pay for the lights, let alone the postmaster's salary. With the rest, the Postal Service should switch to every other day street delivery of letters. Daily letter delivery is a losing proposition. Whether your mailman has one letter for you or ten, he still has to make the same amount of footsteps to cover his route. And, if there was money to be made in letter delivery, where is the outpouring from the private sector to break the letter monopoly? If you want your mail delivered daily get a post office box and picks it up at the post office. With parcels, I have found that packages from Amazon sent through the USPS are cheaper and quicker than UPS, and 100% reliable.

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rschweizer

Feb-14-13 12:57 PM

Good editorial. The only thing missing was the biggest nail in the USPS's coffin: employee pentions.

Those employee pensions, which the postal union is unwilling to renegiate, are causing the system to hemorage money by the minute. You can keep raising the price of postage, but that will only help with keeping up with the normal inflaion that everything else also experiences at an average of 2%-3% per year.

I think ridding itself of Saturday is neccessary to at least help make the USPS a little more solvent (and it will) but will not totally balance the books until those pension agreements are re-tooled. Why? Because tied into those benefits are healthcare agreements. And if it's anything we know about healthcare costs, it's that they grow at a rate far exceeding the rate of inflation.

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rschweizer

Feb-14-13 12:57 PM

*penSions that is.

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TiredOfTax

Feb-14-13 1:54 PM

I agree wholeheartedly Hilltopper, and it goes for a lot of other government run entities. If governmental waste could ever be eradicated from these services there would already be way more than enough money to keep them going indefinitely! Smaller government IS the answer!

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rschweizer

Feb-14-13 3:08 PM

ToT- the USPS isn't a government agency; it's a contracted private agency with some government oversight. Simple knowledge of what you're talking about will have taught you this, or just reading the article. To say it's a 'governmemt entity' is categorically and factually incorrect.

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Hilltopper

Feb-14-13 3:45 PM

The Postal Service is a quasi-governmental agency and its employees are employed by the federal government, not the private sector. The board of postal governors, who dictate policy, and the Postmaster general are selected by presidential appointement. Under GW Bush a board of governors was in place that was pro business and large giveaways were secured for the mailing industry. It gave them discounts so deep that what they paid to mail fell short of actual cost. Take a look at your mail and you can see how much big mailers pay to send a letter. Also, the USPS is the only government agency required to pre-fund employees' pensions to the tune of several billion $ a year. That happened under GWB's watch also.

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Flapper

Feb-14-13 5:13 PM

Two days without junk mail YES!

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ishouldknow

Feb-14-13 5:24 PM

They could start by not building these really expensive places and high rents! The rent, I have been told by the builder, for the Northville post office is $9,700 per month for next 20 years.

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Knickman

Feb-14-13 6:02 PM

I agree that the postal service should go to 5 days of outside delivery. I do not agree that Saturday should be non outside delivery day. I think the second day with no outside delivery should be Wednesday. This way, you would not run into 3 days in a row with no delivery when a Monday or Friday holiday is involved. I know every outside letter carrier is jumping for joy with the prospect of having 2 days in a row off. But the needs of the postal patrons takes priority over the desires of the postal employees. A possible 3 day delay of important mail to the patrons could bring certain consequences. And if you only had a 1 day interruption twice a week, you probably could hold up all deliveries including packages on Wednesday as well as you have it now for Sunday. The post office could save another 10%. By doing what i suggest, there would only be 2 days interruption around holidays, not 3. And yes, the postal service has to look at their rental costs.

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Knickman

Feb-14-13 6:04 PM

Some other things the postal service could do; have one postmaster oversee 2 small adjacent offices. Become more aggressive in their labor negotiations. And pensions need to more in line with the private sector.

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Hilltopper

Feb-14-13 6:16 PM

Just an example of the lopsided rate schedule, all available at USPS****....... Walmart pays the USPS 14.9 cents for delivery of each of their magazine size flyers. When the mailman takes them out for delivery he puts in as much effort per piece as he does delivering a 46 cent 1st class letter. 14.9 cents might have been a reasonable in 1950, but what else can you but today with 15 cents? No wonder they are losing money.

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Hilltopper

Feb-14-13 6:18 PM

USPS d-o-t c-o-m

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TiredOfTax

Feb-14-13 9:20 PM

rschweizer, When the government pays every employee and it is in the constitution that they must deliver mail and yet they cannot make money doing it. If it were a for profit company truly independent of the government, they would be making money and the benefits would not be as great! Like every other company!

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rschweizer

Feb-14-13 9:47 PM

ToT, I'm not sure where you got any of your colorful commentary from as I made it very clear that I was FOR shedding the Saturday delivery and re-tooling the system for a leaner outcome that could actually churn a profit.

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rschweizer

Feb-14-13 10:06 PM

Also ToT: Not every company makes a profit ('they would be making money and the benefits would not be as great! Like every other company!).

In fact, there are subsidiaries and entire companies that have NEVER made a profit and some that didn't see a profit until several years after starting up.

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laker88

Feb-15-13 8:18 AM

ishouldknow....Wow, $9700/mo! That seems exorbitant, or am I missing some facts that justify that kind of rent? I wonder who is collecting those rent monies?

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MrBoB51

Feb-15-13 8:24 AM

Yeah, like mine...short term hurt, long term gain. At least the Postal service is trying to do something. Hill's post was really good, but I think mass mailings get a cheaper rate due to sheer volume, there's a lot of Wally-worlds across the country. Anyhow, somebody must be really bored to disagree with a spelling correction. Time to make rye bread, everybody have a great day!!

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ishouldknow

Feb-15-13 12:04 PM

Laker88 Yes, $9700/month, and the owner owns several of them. He also owns several State Police barracks, the Mobil mart in Mayfield and several other stations around the area that he rents.

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laker88

Feb-15-13 12:07 PM

thanks ishouldknow...eyeopening to say the least...

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drugsrus

Feb-15-13 2:47 PM

more junk mail for Monday

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drugsrus

Feb-15-13 2:48 PM

anytime you can rent to the government it's like hitting the lottery

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drugsrus

Feb-15-13 2:48 PM

I want a cell phone tower

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rschweizer

Feb-15-13 3:02 PM

You sure about that, drugs? I had a government contract ($275k per year for 3 years) that I couldn't wait to get out of after the term was up because it got to the point where I was actually paying them to do their work, that's how low the net was after costs when you factored in my employees' salaries. It was great because I could use that as a reference for other potential clients, including private, but I certainly learned a lesson to actually not contract with the government anymore.

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TiredOfTax

Feb-15-13 5:11 PM

rschweizer "ToT, I'm not sure where you got any of your colorful commentary from" Really? Do you not even read your OWN posts? In the first post to me you said "ToT- the USPS isn't a government agency; it's a contracted private agency with some government oversight. Simple knowledge of what you're talking about will have taught you this, or just reading the article. To say it's a 'governmemt entity' is categorically and factually incorrect." My reply was to that, are you so daft as to not remember what you have typed or is it that you type so much that you simply cannot remember all of your nasty replies?

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drugsrus

Feb-15-13 5:19 PM

swizzer- if you made a deal that bad, then you didn't learn much all those years in school. Either that or you jumped at it so fast you didn't think it through. Like the new NY gun law. Either way and bottom line it was your mistake. I've been involved in gov't contracts and they can be a big plus to businesses bottom line

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