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Spending issue a crisis

February 8, 2013

The cheering and applause you didn’t hear from Washington on Tuesday was over the Congressional Budget Office’s report that President Barack Obama may be about to pass a milestone — his first year i......

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MrBoB51

Feb-12-13 8:31 AM

What makes you think I have any intention of being reasonable with a progressive? You spend a lot of time criticizing Conservatism yet at no time will you defend Progressives' goals so I'll do it for you in one word...Collectivism. Conservatives' goals on the other hand are just as simple to explain in one word..Individuality. Now, explain why Collectivism is better.

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drugsrus

Feb-11-13 6:52 PM

swizzer, I don't remember copying anything from any news source. Calm down and read - I said that you don't ever let facts sway your opinions. I and others have posted facts that paint your savior Barry in a bad light and you simply continue to rant on and on ad nauseum on how wrong those FACTS are

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rschweizer

Feb-11-13 2:49 PM

MrBoB51, and then you wonder why you are historically perceived as being unable to be reasoned with.

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taxtired

Feb-11-13 2:35 PM

rs : stop babbling

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MrBoB51

Feb-11-13 2:10 PM

You're using some pretty big words for kid. Besides, I like educated people as I am one...then there's you. Will you quit being so easy to tweak.

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rschweizer

Feb-11-13 1:50 PM

MrBoB51, I'm as cool as a cucumber, thanks, but am wondering where your brain is that you would ever think to know this.

That's the problem with you fake conservatives and Republicans- you hate admitting when you're wrong, when people don't agree with you, and even more so when people actually don't understand you after having come to a far different answer after not seeing the twisted information you present.

In one comment section alone you admitted to being a misogynist, having a deficiency in interpreting raw data, and what appeared to be a deep harboring of fear of educated people.

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rschweizer

Feb-11-13 1:46 PM

drugsrus, facts? Really? Each and every time you asked for facts my opinions were based on and you got them.

You? Not so much. You, even more so than Bob, actually came back with stuff that didn't even exist! Imagine that! You copied and pasted crap from Fox news and in one instance a White Supremist website and claimed it to be true despite published reports of it being quite the opposite.

So don't you sit there and try and tell me that all the research I've done was nonsense when in actuality you are pretty much the kingpin of twisting information.

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taxtired

Feb-11-13 12:47 PM

Nicely said bob.

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MrBoB51

Feb-11-13 7:54 AM

One last thing Rs, by your own words you admit I possess skills you envy, the ability to communicate effectively and maneuver people like you into reveling just what a closed minded person you are. Grow up.

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MrBoB51

Feb-11-13 7:47 AM

Rs, you don't even know what you post. YOU claimed I was the scholar. All I visualize is you with a red face pulling your hair out, steam coming out of your ears while stamping your feet begging to be relevant. You're not. You're not interested in learning or debating anything, you just want to be heard. Ok, we heard you, come back when you've learned to play with others.

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drugsrus

Feb-10-13 10:08 PM

swizzer, it is really a sad thing that YOU never let facts sway your decisions and you blindly follow your leader Barry believing whatever they tell you. You truly prove that liberalism is a disease

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rschweizer

Feb-10-13 9:41 PM

MrBoB51 I never claimed to be a scholar; it just seems that each and every time a contentious issue comes about, you and a few selects come about and claim the ability to interpret everything and anything without first having actually read the facts versus regurgitating what Fox news told your ears. You did the same thing with the gun debate.

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notgood

Feb-10-13 7:31 PM

* ears that is

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notgood

Feb-10-13 7:27 PM

Well I see two people that haven't did their research. I can only hope that you are the ones caught in this gamble and pay out your hears.

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notgood

Feb-10-13 5:27 PM

I did research and MrBob is dead on. I just wanted to see if others have really did research. I talk with alot of people and it is pretty sad how they are mis lead by not researching. RS your "actual cost" comment concerns me, If I buy a car do I buy it and then ask what is going to cost? From what I have read and reseached none of them read this bill. Pretty big gamble with my Life is what they are doing.

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drugsrus

Feb-10-13 3:12 PM

MrBob-"anyone smarter than rs is a scholar." That would be most of the population. BUT he says he has 7 years of college. He won't tell what school though, I just want to be sure my granddaughter doesn't go there.

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MrBoB51

Feb-10-13 2:56 PM

Flash....anyone smarter than rs is a scholar. I guess you're not yet tired of me pulling your shorts over your head and tying them in a knot. Fine.

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rschweizer

Feb-10-13 2:15 PM

MrBoB51/IRS scholar: no one ever said universal healthcare was free, nor was it ever implied. This is something you made up. And I think most would agree that this is a tax most wouldn't mind paying for because it's about time this 'first-rate' nation gives first-rate access to its own citizens.

One big reason why the counter-healthcare clan is so against this is because they feel there's too much money to be made for the private insurance companies who have spent the last 30 years scamming people while contributing to the skyrocketing costs of healthcare. It's a pretty bad and viscous cycle that needs to be curbed.

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rschweizer

Feb-10-13 2:12 PM

NotGood: before feeding into the mass hysteria and lies others here try to get you to believe, I would encourage either doing the research yourself OR waiting until there's an actual government-issued reference note regarding ACTUAL costs. MrBob and ToT have a documented history of spreading misinformation in order to get you to be on 'their side' in this universal healthcare debate.

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MrBoB51

Feb-10-13 12:34 PM

Correct TOT, it does not exempt you from buying ins. but it sure the heck becomes expensive after the third year of paying whatever it's called, perhaps 'tribute' would be a good word. After that the tribute is waaayy more expensive and confiscated before you even see it. Is there anybody left who still thinks this is free???? One way or another those paying tribute to the Govt. thru payroll deductions or eventually buying ins. thru a Govt. exchange will subsidize low income people (key word Govt). Only for those, but not for you will Free Universal Healthcare continue to be free on your dime. It appears the only way to stop this is for everybody to stop working, stop paying taxes, stop buying things. What are the chances of that?

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TiredOfTax

Feb-10-13 11:35 AM

MrBob you are right but the fine does not exempt you from buying the insurance, you get to pay both the fine and the insurance costs. Ask any of the thousands of new IRS employees. Plus they (the IRS)say that there are't fines, but a tax that you must pay if you find yourself without insurance. It wouldn't be legal to fine you as that exceeds their capabilities as spelled out in the supreme court ruling. Tax penalties, not fines! I wonder if they have read the bill yet to see all of the wonderful things that it holds inside?

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MrBoB51

Feb-10-13 10:52 AM

Notgood, you're either going to buy insurance or pay a fine. The first 3 years the fine is cheap compared to the cost of ins...approx. 4k/person. the fine starts at $2400. If you pay the fine you're legal but have no ins.. Now, there are 16,500 new IRS agents who are responsible for making sure you have ins., can prove it or you pay the fine. If you can't pay the fine and you're working, they deduct it from your paycheck. Either way....you're gonna pay. It is a very expensive 'free' Universal Healthcare Plan.

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drugsrus

Feb-10-13 9:29 AM

notgood- apparently you're new here. Some of these people would disagree with God. Some disagreewith anything that might even hint of being derogetory towrd king Barry and his band of idiots.

To answer your question, the IRS reported that the cost of O'care would be about $20,000/yr. for a family of 4

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notgood

Feb-10-13 8:23 AM

What are you disagreeing on? I asked a simple question. Really!

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notgood

Feb-10-13 7:14 AM

Lets say I make 60,000yr and my employer finds its cheaper to pay the fine for not insuring me, What will it cost me?

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