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Deal failed to cut budget

January 9, 2013

Seeming a bit surprised at the extent of their victory, a few liberal members of Congress were candid enough to admit the American people were shortchanged on New Year’s Da....

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TiredOfTax

Jan-13-13 8:44 AM

Privacy advocates oppose drones for civilian use, saying they can too easily be used to snoop on law-abiding citizens, not just criminals or those thought to be doing something illegal. "This is unwise and unnecessary. … Sheriffs are supposed to be sheriffs, not the U.S. Army," said Doug Head, a Democratic activist. Even so, drones are being deployed all over America, with at least 60 applications made to the FAA. At the same time, the FAA, at the direction of Congress and President Barack Obama, is working on rules that by 2015 would decide how drones can safely share airspace with the nearly 340,000 commercial and private planes aloft daily nationwide. Central Florida officials have volunteered for the program, but no sites have been picked, although the FAA initially expected to make the selections by December.

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TiredOfTax

Jan-13-13 8:25 AM

OK rschweizer. in very simple terms here is the message without any misleading words...I would have posted on the "DRONE" article had there been one. There was not an article on that topic so I posted on this old dead stream so I could share it with those that like to talk. Your aversion to conducive conversation relative to your number of posts is quite perplexing. So now tomorrow we can visit toilet training if you need a refresher?

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rschweizer

Jan-12-13 3:06 PM

ToT: I didn't say there was an article, and if there was an article, that's not what I was talking about. I was talking about how your brain fails to make sensible connections between topics, as you go from one to the other in a s-hitty attempt to get these conversations to go your way, which usually ends in something anti-Obama.

Here's your reference sinc you asked:

TiredOfTax Jan-10-13 9:06 PM "I wonder why there was an extended presence of a Predator Drone over Johnstown today?"

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TiredOfTax

Jan-12-13 2:23 PM

Maybe you need a map to keep up there rschweizer. Jumping from topic to topic must be hard when you have your Obama blinders on. One topic per post... got it! I will try to keep it on your l e v e l. N i c e a n d s l o w!

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TiredOfTax

Jan-12-13 8:45 AM

Well I didn't see the drone article, can you point it out o masterful leader knower of all things? I read that NY is in the running for housing the drone testing area... maybe a test run to see how the area stacks up against others. See and my post wasn't all about you, thanks for the attention though. You may be into me more than GWB... now that is a lofty place in progressive standings!

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rschweizer

Jan-12-13 3:06 AM

TiredOfTax, I think it's funny how bad your ADD is, going from national debt (and seemingly on topic) to 'liberal progressives' to a predator drone in Johnstown to the war in Iraq and how President Obama is handling it.

Want to cut some debt? Maybe we can use the gas in your brain to fuel Air Force One for the president and his staff.

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TiredOfTax

Jan-11-13 5:36 PM

Rendition, my friend. You can't even open a checking account without 37 proofs of idendity. Yet anyone can vote for president without any! GO figure! Plus I read today that U.S. troop deaths from the war in Afghanistan since President Obama took office reached 1,000. That means that nearly two-thirds of the U.S. fatalities in the war in Afghanistan have occurred during the Obama administration, which has managed the war for a mere quarter of its duration. AND RISING!

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drugsrus

Jan-11-13 5:19 PM

rschweizer-wow, going to school for a long time sure doesn't translate to a thinking ability does it Skippy??? Must everything be completely spelled out for you??????

I typed slow so maybe you would get it

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rschweizer

Jan-11-13 1:34 PM

drugsrus, that comment makes no sense. I think you need to re-read and re-apply your math.

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rschweizer

Jan-11-13 1:33 PM

TiredOfTax, that just proves a point that those drones are out to get survey everyone, not just suspected terrorists.

You should have that about that when when you and your friends celebrated PATRIOT Act's passing when thought that all those clauses inserted in their could only apply to suspected terrorists when in fact they apply to EVERYONE.

Rendition, my friend. You can't even open a checking account without 37 proofs of idendity.

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TiredOfTax

Jan-10-13 9:06 PM

I wonder why there was an extended presence of a Predator Drone over Johnstown today? Although they can be used for intelligence and reconnaissance-gathering but are mainly used as a find and destroy, attack type missile launching aircraft. Johnstown must be on Obama's "enemies" list!

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drugsrus

Jan-10-13 5:28 PM

rschweizer- "none are free" - but included in the overall Fed budget. Again your facts don't support your conclusions.

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rschweizer

Jan-10-13 2:37 PM

drugsrus, there is a serious flaw in your math, specifically as you neglect to consider overhead costs. Not every cent that goes into SS comes back out. There are employees to pay, along with their benefits. There are building rents to be paid. Energy bills. Postage. None of which are free.

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rschweizer

Jan-10-13 2:32 PM

I read an interesting story off the SSA website:

"Ida May Fuller worked for three years under the Social Security program. The accumulated taxes on her salary during those three years was a total of $24.75. Her initial monthly check was $22.54. During her lifetime she collected a total of $22,888.92 in Social Security benefits."

Thereby proving that it IS possible to draw more benefits from the SS system than actually putting into it.

Tot, is your skin burning yet from all these facts you're reading?

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rschweizer

Jan-10-13 2:28 PM

ToT: you see the rint, but nothing I say is fact? You sure about that?

Fact: the number of people drawing SS income is at an all-time high, based on figures from 2008, the most recent available:

2008 > 50,898,244 people > $615,344,000,000

...and have only gone up EVERY year since its inception.

Facts don't lie, unlike the nonsense you pull here.

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drugsrus

Jan-10-13 11:58 AM

rschweizer- again you rant on without a few facts.

"largest number of people pulling from it due to the baby boomers" - we all paid into the suystem for all our working lives resultin in the FACT that "the system" has taken in $2 BILLION more than it has paid out.

So tell me,"educated one", how is it that the jar has so much more put in than taken out and it is empty ?????

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MrBoB51

Jan-10-13 8:30 AM

It's great this SS problem has been solved by a mere 2% increase. Now it appears that here in NYS 6000 gun laws did not solve the problems so 1 more law is going to be the golden ticket. Whew, I was getting worried.

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TiredOfTax

Jan-10-13 7:22 AM

I see the print but it is all air, nothing you say is factual. Liberal progressives blame Bush for everything from Iraq to ingrown hair and using your logic on these topics everything Washington stems from the President. It is not new, just another day for being wrong for you and the president you worship and protect.

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rschweizer

Jan-10-13 4:04 AM

TiredOfTax, once again, the Speaker was equally involved in this deal. That's about the seventh time I've tried to let you know that.

If you actually read Knickman's post rather than pretend to and just go on your typical Obama rant, you'd also understand why the SS cut should never have been made to begin with. It's a multi-billion dollar system that has a lot of overhead and quite possibly the largest number of people pulling from it due to the baby boomers. It's chock-full of things that can only add to its costs:

increased number of retirees getting SS wages + failure to increase the retirement age + fewer people paying into the system = a recipe for failure.

The keyword is 'solvency' and how to maintain that while not overtaxing the people. Evidently 2% is all it takes and I'm happy with that.

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TiredOfTax

Jan-09-13 9:55 PM

Knickman, you are exactly right, and just who do you suppose decided that the social security was the perfect place to give it to the taxpayer? It begins with a big O and ends with us having that same letter as a benefit! It all comes back to who is in charge, one big O after another!

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rschweizer

Jan-09-13 9:46 PM

Knickman, excellent points.

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Knickman

Jan-09-13 7:43 PM

The social security tax returning to what it originally was is not that troubling to me. We need to keep it solvent, something that has become a big concern of late. The Social Security administration needs to look at ways to reduce administrative costs while preserving the monthly benefits. One way would be to get rid of the $255 survivors benefit which does not mount to much any more. It probably costs as much to administer when you consider the number of persons needed nationwide just input this info. Jobs that could be eliminated. Or call it reducing the size of gov't. They also need to look at the number of high paid officials they have and reduce where possible. There are many more dep'ts in gov't that need to look thing over for reduction in overhead.

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ishouldknow

Jan-09-13 5:51 PM

Yet we re-elected these idiots!

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TiredOfTax

Jan-09-13 2:08 PM

Even I know we have debated this issue recently. But it still is true, we are getting nowhere on the debt lowering strategy at all. We need some new representatives that WANT us to succeed at reducing the debt!

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